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Hmmm, you just tossed in a bunch of cities into a bunch of categories, no rhyme or reason whatsoever.
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"May" is the key word there, it depends on the species. I can tell you right now any place east of about 85 W is very lush.
Sure, just not as lush/robust as the South.
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Because we're talking about the sweatiest cities.
And heat feeling contrubutes to that. A place with lower heat indices isn't going to feel as sweaty/uncomfortable as a place with higher heat indices, regardless of the dew point values.
For example, Tampa is clearly a more comfortable summer climate than Phoenix, regardless of how high the dew points can get: because the heat indices are lower than in Phoenix.
NYC definitely deserves the number one spot. The gulf coast may be hotter and more humid, but they don't have to interact with the heat the way New Yorkers do...walking, standing on sweltering subway platforms, no central air, walk-up apartments. And frankly, you'd be surprised at how many New Yorkers don't have window units. Historically, it's been hard for people to transport air conditioning units, and no one wants to haul one up four flights of stairs.
For example, Tampa is clearly a more comfortable summer climate than Phoenix, regardless of how high the dew points can get: because the heat indices are lower than in Phoenix.
You conveniently dismiss the effects of humidity and unbearable dew points to fit your argument, which means you basically don't understand the point of this thread. Know what happens when the dew point is in the 70s and above? Your body can't evaporate sweat on its own. Hence, sweaty. Hence, the point of this thread. There is no comparison to Phoenix because the climate is so dry that your sweat evaporates before you even know it's there.
NYC definitely deserves the number one spot. The gulf coast may be hotter and more humid, but they don't have to interact with the heat the way New Yorkers do...walking, standing on sweltering subway platforms, no central air, walk-up apartments. And frankly, you'd be surprised at how many New Yorkers don't have window units. Historically, it's been hard for people to transport air conditioning units, and no one wants to haul one up four flights of stairs.
lol stop it, NYC is tolerable. In the Southeast, I walk out the house in a t-shirt and shorts and instantly feel like I'm in hell, and that's from just checking my mail. You talk about subways, but cars are worse, especially when they sit in the sun; hot steering wheel, hot seat, the smothering heat when you close the car door, and honestly I don't think people in NYC have to go through the pain of getting burnt by the metal part of the seatbelt every now and then.
You conveniently dismiss the effects of humidity and unbearable dew points to fit your argument, which means you basically don't understand the point of this thread. Know what happens when the dew point is in the 70s and above? Your body can't evaporate sweat on its own. Hence, sweaty. Hence, the point of this thread. There is no comparison to Phoenix because the climate is so dry that your sweat evaporates before you even know it's there.
I accounted for those factors, and then showed that they don't matter if the heat indices (real feel calculated by combing temps and dewpoints) still aren't that high.
Hmmm, you just tossed in a bunch of cities into a bunch of categories, no rhyme or reason whatsoever.
Sure, just not as lush/robust as the South.
And heat feeling contrubutes to that. A place with lower heat indices isn't going to feel as sweaty/uncomfortable as a place with higher heat indices, regardless of the dew point values.
For example, Tampa is clearly a more comfortable summer climate than Phoenix, regardless of how high the dew points can get: because the heat indices are lower than in Phoenix.
The densest forests in the country are in the Casacdes and the Adirondacks through Longfellow Mountains.
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