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Old 07-25-2017, 10:34 AM
 
Location: Mid Atlantic USA
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You want Philly to be Boston. It's not. Other than this, do you have more to add to the convo?

Philly will never be a Boston, and hence has no cache nationally and never will. It is a decent enough city, but will never be world class. Not ever. There are many many reasons for that, not least of which is the pathetic city leadership and business leaders in the city. Comcast is such a great role model, one of the most hated companies in the area and country.
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Old 07-25-2017, 10:43 AM
 
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Start off by walking down Newbury street or Boylston in Boston and compare it to what in Philly?
Walnut Street. Locust Street. 13th Street (south of Chestnut); and there are others... Just as beautiful, with Philly's fanciful gingerbread architecture, narrow streets, alfresco dining and vibrant sidewalks.

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Walk down Commonwealth Avenue to Boston Common. Does Philly have a huge park like that right in the vibrant part of town?
Rittenhouse Square, which is even more beautiful and vibrant surrounded by upscale, old money apts and condos along with ritzy high-end hotels ... Oh yeah, does Boston have the equivalent of Boathouse Row along the Schuylkill River, which is both vibrant and beautiful with its colorful, architecturally beautiful boathouses which are stunningly lit at night and which host nationally famous crew races along the river such as the Dad Vail Regatta, the largest collegiate such race in the world?

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Go to Fenway Park and hang around there after a game and compare it to what in Philly?
Philly didn't need to build a baseball stadium downtown to spark vibrancy. Besides, even though Fenway Park is old and historic, it still has a rundown, dumpy look to it. Don't want it in Philly.

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Shall I go on?
No, you said quite enough (surgeon required to extract patient's foot-from-mouth, STAT!)
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Old 07-25-2017, 10:45 AM
 
Location: Boston Metrowest (via the Philly area)
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It is a decent enough city, but will never be world class. Not ever. There are many many reasons for that, not least of which is the pathetic city leadership and business leaders in the city.
...said everyone about literally every other American city not named New York. Take it from someone who has actually lived in both areas (currently living in the Boston region). It's a great area, but utopia it is not. Just like no place is.

The grass is always greener elsewhere, isn't it?
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Old 07-25-2017, 10:50 AM
 
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Race is a variable within socio-economics. But if you think every time someone is talking about comparisons between Newark and Camden, that they are thinking about race first/foremost, you are too caught up in the race game. People usually think about crime and blight first/foremost...something that is nationally recognizable in post-industrial cities across the USA. There are some racists out there, but not everyone is one.

And yes, I know multiple people who have moved to places like Richmond or Atlanta or other southern cities, living in older neighborhoods with a yard because they worked for Universities that moved them and they had that experience. While they didn't miss the crime, yes, they did miss the vibrancy and community.
Interesting that the ''race game cards'' can be dealt depending on the topic. Of course people think about urban crime and blight first....never mind. No one else never thinks anything else about that topic, yet all we hear about is how racist America is; now there only some, which implies not many...moving on now.

Anyway, the 2nd part of post now qualifies your the initial post; now, the people you know were moved to Richmond or Atlanta by universities/jobs. The first round statement implied they left Philly because of old row homes, they had no $$, and high crime; now they were moved by Universities to Atlanta and Richmond and miss their vibrant walkable 'hoods in Philly...moving on now on this as well.
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Old 07-25-2017, 10:56 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia/ Rehoboth Beach
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Philly will never be a Boston, and hence has no cache nationally and never will. It is a decent enough city, but will never be world class. Not ever. There are many many reasons for that, not least of which is the pathetic city leadership and business leaders in the city. Comcast is such a great role model, one of the most hated companies in the area and country.
It least your not hiding your jealousy for Philly . I could say hundreds of neg. things about Atlanta but not my style and frankly I don't care at all about Atlanta .
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Old 07-25-2017, 11:00 AM
 
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There is a reason for this. It is because it offers really nothing that can't be had in those other cities. I have friends in Kansas City. They have been here to visit me. Now, they ask me to meet them in DC and NYC cause they find Philly less attractive than and having less things to do than those cities.
Interesting that Philly doesn't meet Kansas City's high standards...lol. How often do go out there? Do you opt to meet in Witchita or Jefferson City now?
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Old 07-25-2017, 11:05 AM
 
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I never knew Philly had a perception problem. Growing up in DC and having lived in NYC, you usually don't hear much about it and if you do it's usually positive.... I think Baltimore has a worse reputation within this area then Philly.
In Chicago, I heard Philly called the Detroit of the east coast.
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Old 07-25-2017, 11:25 AM
 
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In Chicago, I heard Philly called the Detroit of the east coast.
Chicagoans don't actively discuss Philly in their day to day lives nor hold a unanimous opinion about Philly. I personally think it's my favorite Eastern city. Most other people I know here have little to no knowledge of it. If it ain't New York they don't care sadly. But there certainly isn't some widely held belief about Philly. It's like asking Jews what they think about Jesus.
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Old 07-25-2017, 11:34 AM
 
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Clients on the west coast are that racist? They beoytch because they have to go to a larger version of Newark? Newark, a city dominated and run by African-Americans...hmmm...I love the undertones in comments like this. I bet your clients are otherwise very liberal PC types...lol.

These clients don't like Phillly because its ''too black"...interesting.
Where did race come into play here? I certainly didn't read it into the post you quoted.
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Old 07-25-2017, 11:36 AM
 
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In Chicago, I heard Philly called the Detroit of the east coast.
That's pretty funny considering Chicago is much more similar to its fellow Midwestern city sibling Detroit. Talk about throwing stones in a glass house.
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