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Old 01-11-2018, 07:10 PM
 
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Philly in the shadow of Boston? (Light chuckle), add that to bizarre things only ever said on city data lol. DC is also a stretch. The only city that arguably suppresses some thunder from Philly is maybe NYC, which is only 45 miles away as the crow flies. With that said, I say that Philly still does keep an increasingly robust mindshare/influence/status/unique identity even with the nation's largest city being an hour and a half away.
This. Who the hell compares Philly to DC or Boston?

Here are the tiers of the BosWash corridor:

Top tier: NYC





Bottom tier: Literally everything else


Just LOL @ thinking people have some sort of hierarchy between these cities. The BosWash can be broken down into the "New York and not New York".
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Old 01-11-2018, 07:16 PM
 
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Thanks for the Master Class, Ed.
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Old 01-11-2018, 07:45 PM
 
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Thanks for the Master Class, Ed.
Is what I said wrong?
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Old 01-12-2018, 07:44 AM
 
Location: Mt. Airy
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Is what I said wrong?
There is no hierarchy overall. Rather, there are cities that have stronger and weaker economies, larger and smaller populations, urban and more suburban build, etc. etc.

NYC has pros and cons like every other place. It may have the largest economy, population, transit system, etc., but on the subjective criteria like QOL and weather, it doesn't necessarily win. It's COL is stupid ridiculous, at least in the core. And it performs much less dominantly when talking about higher education. Philly and Boston are very strong there.

So, yes, what you said is out of touch with reality because it's strictly black and white and overly simplistic. No place on Earth is the only place on Earth that represents "it" and abolishes all other places to "other".
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Old 01-12-2018, 07:46 AM
 
Location: Nashville TN, Cincinnati, OH
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Of course Philly lives in NYC's shadow. Nashville lives in Atlanta's shadow here in the South but it what it is.
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Old 01-12-2018, 11:04 AM
 
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There is no hierarchy overall. Rather, there are cities that have stronger and weaker economies, larger and smaller populations, urban and more suburban build, etc. etc.

NYC has pros and cons like every other place. It may have the largest economy, population, transit system, etc., but on the subjective criteria like QOL and weather, it doesn't necessarily win. It's COL is stupid ridiculous, at least in the core. And it performs much less dominantly when talking about higher education. Philly and Boston are very strong there.

So, yes, what you said is out of touch with reality because it's strictly black and white and overly simplistic. No place on Earth is the only place on Earth that represents "it" and abolishes all other places to "other".
Outside of city-data nobody thinks about these things.

Perception is that New York is a world class city akin to the US version of London or Paris. No other NE corridor city comes close to that reputation. Nobody in England knows nor cares what Philly is. On a world scale people don't associate Philly with America. Of course they *should* but it isn't just a Philly problem. No other Northeastern city really does "alpha" the way New York does.

This thread is about perception of Philly. And overall in the Northeast, New York dominates and every Northeast city is in its shadow. The same can be said of Baltimore to DC in that nobody really cares about Baltimore on a level they care about DC. But that's another thread and New York is the Alpha Male Of the Group (Amog) so New York just dominates everything.

The perception of Philly is not ever made in comparison to DC because outside of the BosWash nobody hypes DC. People think of Philly in relation to New York the way they think of Boston in relation to New York. It's always New York tier and then not New York tier. It is Black and White in terms of perception.
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Old 01-12-2018, 11:08 AM
 
Location: Center City
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Someone one time on CD claimed that you can find everything in New York. I disagreed, stating you won’t find these things in New York:

- Cobblestone alleys and side streets interspersed throughout its CBD
- Blocks of extant 200+ year old architecture as part of its core
- Theatre of somewjphat comparable quality at a fraction of the cost
- Like theatre, dining options that offer the same or better quality of food, service and atmosphere at a considerably lower price (not to forget Philly’s popular byob’s!)
- A bustle of people in its CBD rather than an overwhelming crush
- A Quaker sensibility that imparts, among other qualities I value, less brashness, bluster and braggadocio (e.g., despite Philly's "Yo Adrienne" DNA, I have trouble seeing Philly produce a Donald Trump - that’s on NYC)
- Amish markets
- The Barnes Museum
- A greater value on history and preservation over development
- An overall cleaner and greener core
- Free travel on PT for seniors

NYC is NYC. And Philly is Philly. Different animals.
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Old 01-12-2018, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Chibostoncaliseattle
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Someone one time on CD claimed that you can find everything in New York. I disagreed, stating you won’t find these things in New York:

- Cobblestone alleys and side streets interspersed throughout its CBD
- Blocks of extant 200+ year old architecture as part of its core
- Theatre of somewjphat comparable quality at a fraction of the cost
- Like theatre, dining options that offer the same or better quality of food, service and atmosphere at a considerably lower price (not to forget Philly’s popular byob’s!)
- A bustle of people in its CBD rather than an overwhelming crush
- A Quaker sensibility that imparts, among other qualities I value, less brashness, bluster and braggadocio (e.g., despite Philly's "Yo Adrienne" DNA, I have trouble seeing Philly produce a Donald Trump - that’s on NYC)
- Amish markets
- The Barnes Museum
- A greater value on history and preservation over development
- An overall cleaner and greener core
- Free travel on PT for seniors

NYC is NYC. And Philly is Philly. Different animals.
Haha well said. I would have some of the same thoughts about Boston vs. NYC.
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Old 01-12-2018, 12:10 PM
 
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Someone one time on CD claimed that you can find everything in New York. I disagreed, stating you won’t find these things in New York:

- Cobblestone alleys and side streets interspersed throughout its CBD
- Blocks of extant 200+ year old architecture as part of its core
- Theatre of somewjphat comparable quality at a fraction of the cost
- Like theatre, dining options that offer the same or better quality of food, service and atmosphere at a considerably lower price (not to forget Philly’s popular byob’s!)
- A bustle of people in its CBD rather than an overwhelming crush
- A Quaker sensibility that imparts, among other qualities I value, less brashness, bluster and braggadocio (e.g., despite Philly's "Yo Adrienne" DNA, I have trouble seeing Philly produce a Donald Trump - that’s on NYC)
- Amish markets
- The Barnes Museum
- A greater value on history and preservation over development
- An overall cleaner and greener core
- Free travel on PT for seniors

NYC is NYC. And Philly is Philly. Different animals.
Muh small town is more charming cope




























Just messing with ya, I agree about all you said.
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Old 01-12-2018, 01:20 PM
 
Location: BMORE!
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Outside of city-data nobody thinks about these things.

Perception is that New York is a world class city akin to the US version of London or Paris. No other NE corridor city comes close to that reputation. Nobody in England knows nor cares what Philly is. On a world scale people don't associate Philly with America. Of course they *should* but it isn't just a Philly problem. No other Northeastern city really does "alpha" the way New York does.

This thread is about perception of Philly. And overall in the Northeast, New York dominates and every Northeast city is in its shadow. The same can be said of Baltimore to DC in that nobody really cares about Baltimore on a level they care about DC. But that's another thread and New York is the Alpha Male Of the Group (Amog) so New York just dominates everything.

The perception of Philly is not ever made in comparison to DC because outside of the BosWash nobody hypes DC. People think of Philly in relation to New York the way they think of Boston in relation to New York. It's always New York tier and then not New York tier. It is Black and White in terms of perception.
That kinda depends in the situation. If you're looking for the best hospital on the planet, then you won't care about DC anywhere near the same level that you'd care about Baltimore.

The same.could be said of any city, including NYC.
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