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A lot of parts of St Louis is desolate and it's downtown is full of empty streets. Hardly what a New Yorker or Chicagoan is used too
Downtown St. Louis does have quite a few amenities. Grocery Store, several bodegas, bars, Ball Park Village, too many restaraunts to name, bowling alley, movie theater, a casino and several Metrolink stations (40+ miles of lrt covering key areas) to take you to other areas. Very walkable. I've lived in both Chicago and St Louis. DT St Louis offers a good neighborhood experience. Is it on a River North or Streeterville level, no. But there is enough walkability and amenities to keep the area relevant.
Outside of DT St. Louis there are still a good collection of urban neighborhoods like I've written about before such as The Central West End, Dogtown, The Grove, Tower Grove, Shaw just to name a few that could satisfy the edge for urban living options for most.
No one is going to find a Chicago Gold Coast type of neighborhood outside of handful of cities but there are plenty of urban living options in St Louis, Baltimore and Cleveland type of cities.
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But almost every single thread asking about where a Black person should move to mentions Atlanta.. because it's a mecca no?
Simple statistics would bear that out. I just resent the idea that moving here is some sort of panacea for the black community, or that the white community is somehow marginalized. It presents an erroneous picture of the city.
Simple statistics would bear that out. I just resent the idea that moving here is some sort of panacea for the black community, or that the white community is somehow marginalized. It presents an erroneous picture of the city.
I agree. I'm a black man who doesn't particurly care for ATL, but this poll specifically asks about which city is best for someone moving from a top-tier city. I think Atlanta holds more appeal for a black New Yorker or Angelino than his white counterparts.
Simple statistics would bear that out. I just resent the idea that moving here is some sort of panacea for the black community, or that the white community is somehow marginalized. It presents an erroneous picture of the city.
But from what I see, it's mostly the Atlanta residents and/or other Black folks that always recommend Atlanta whenever the opportunity arises and whenever there is a thread about where a Black person should move to, they always recommend Atlanta. Even here in DC, Black folks recommend the Maryland side because of the same reasons.
I understand though... it's like how DC get's called a government town when only 1 in 4 work for the government =)
Atlanta is doing something right since it is attracting so many people. I think Kmanshouse should at least visit Atlanta to see if this is the place for him/her. If not, move on to visit the next city on the list. It's simple!
Atlanta is a tier two city and Dallas, Houston, Philadelphia, Seattle and Miami are also considered tier 2.
There are no defined tiers, so it's everyone just voicing opinions. However, if the OP is coming from a NYC, Boston, SF, etc, they will see a significant different between where they WERE living to where they MIGHT be living if considering Dallas, Houston, and other less developed cities. Philadelphia functions much more like a tier 1 city than the newer cities (e.g. transit, walkable, vibrancy, centralization, etc.). Seattle is a great city and is closer to functioning like Philly than the others listed above IME.
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