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Old 07-25-2017, 05:59 PM
 
Location: California x North Carolina (soon)...
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I would say Raleigh's peers are Charlotte, Kansas City, Indianapolis, Pittsburgh, etc. It's at the lower end of that tier, but that's the tier that it's in.
Based on what?

I sincerely hope you have some qualifications besides CSA population. I've been to Raleigh many, many times, and lived in Charlotte, and do not have a comparable existence of the same scale between the two...

Raleigh boosters do not want to admit this, but I'm somebody that's far more familiar with Raleigh-Durham than 99% of people on here: you are aware that:

1)CSA Triangle includes counties and subregions that in real life, aren't considered "the Triangle" or the "Raleigh-Durham" area. It's an inflated CSA on paper...

2)CSA Triangle contains a city (Durham) that anchors it's own sphere of influence. I do agree that it's one area/one metro, but there are people on both sides who never go the other side...

3)the premier universities, the premier city for arts, is widely considered to not be on the Raleigh side of the CSA. In fact, there are many people (including those from the Raleigh side) who would argue the dining, shopping, and recreation amenities ate better on the Durham side--or at the very least, equal....

4)locals and natives of the area do NOT call the region "Raleigh"--an indication that even locally, Raleigh isn't regarded as monopolizing the personality and culture of the CSA...

The Triangle functions as one area, but that one metro isn't "Raleigh". Any person who knows the area intimately cam be honest about this. So as it compares to OKC, maybe Raleigh is past OKC, but the city of Raleigh has neither the cache or influence that the cities which anchor a 2 million plus metro have....

 
Old 07-25-2017, 06:21 PM
 
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Based on what?

I sincerely hope you have some qualifications besides CSA population. I've been to Raleigh many, many times, and lived in Charlotte, and do not have a comparable existence of the same scale between the two...

Raleigh boosters do not want to admit this, but I'm somebody that's far more familiar with Raleigh-Durham than 99% of people on here: you are aware that:

1)CSA Triangle includes counties and subregions that in real life, aren't considered "the Triangle" or the "Raleigh-Durham" area. It's an inflated CSA on paper...

2)CSA Triangle contains a city (Durham) that anchors it's own sphere of influence. I do agree that it's one area/one metro, but there are people on both sides who never go the other side...

3)the premier universities, the premier city for arts, is widely considered to not be on the Raleigh side of the CSA. In fact, there are many people (including those from the Raleigh side) who would argue the dining, shopping, and recreation amenities ate better on the Durham side--or at the very least, equal....

4)locals and natives of the area do NOT call the region "Raleigh"--an indication that even locally, Raleigh isn't regarded as monopolizing the personality and culture of the CSA...

The Triangle functions as one area, but that one metro isn't "Raleigh". Any person who knows the area intimately cam be honest about this. So as it compares to OKC, maybe Raleigh is past OKC, but the city of Raleigh has neither the cache or influence that the cities which anchor a 2 million plus metro have....
You sound weird and jealous of Raleigh. The largest university in the state sits beside downtown Raleigh. There are more colleges in central Raleigh than most cities in the entire nation. Raleigh is the densest city in the state of North Carolina. There are over three hundred bars, clubs, and restaurants in the greater downtown area alone. Spreading half truths and misinformation is lame. Stop it.
 
Old 07-25-2017, 06:33 PM
 
Location: California x North Carolina (soon)...
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You sound weird and jealous of Raleigh. The largest university in the state sits beside downtown Raleigh. There are more colleges in central Raleigh than most cities in the entire nation. Raleigh is the densest city in the state of North Carolina. There are over three hundred bars, clubs, and restaurants in the greater downtown area alone. Spreading half truths and misinformation is lame. Stop it.
Yes, because we all know that just because a place has "more" of something, that makes it "better"...

You're from the area, so why are you acting like this is news? There is a Raleigh side, there is a Durham side. There are people on both sides who rarely, if ever, venture to the other side. There are plenty of people who would say that some amenities are better on the Durham side. Socially, politically, economically, culturally, you can't deny that there are two sides of this region....

One Metro? Yes. But stop acting like the entire region is regarded as "Raleigh". Just stop...

Raleigh-Durham is like the DMV on a much, much smaller scale. They are the sane region, and will there is obvious flow between the two, the two cities do function within their own spheres. Similarly, just like DC and Baltimore, one city is regarded much more high than the other for reasons that aren't entirely just...
 
Old 07-25-2017, 06:43 PM
 
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Yes, because we all know that just because a place has "more" of something, that makes it "better"...

You're from the area, so why are you acting like this is news? There is a Raleigh side, there is a Durham side. There are people on both sides who rarely, if ever, venture to the other side. There are plenty of people who would say that some amenities are better on the Durham side. Socially, politically, economically, culturally, you can't deny that there are two sides of this region....

One Metro? Yes. But stop acting like the entire region is regarded as "Raleigh". Just stop...

Raleigh-Durham is like the DMV on a much, much smaller scale. They are the sane region, and will there is obvious flow between the two, the two cities do function within their own spheres. Similarly, just like DC and Baltimore, one city is regarded much more high than the other for reasons that aren't entirely just...

You still sound jealous. I said the "Triangle!" Just move to Raleigh dude. Stop the nonsense. It's a nice area.
 
Old 07-25-2017, 07:40 PM
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Location: Miami
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Raleigh is the densest city in the state of North Carolina. There are over three hundred bars, clubs, and restaurants in the greater downtown area alone. Spreading half truths and misinformation is lame. Stop it.
That's false, Raleigh is as sprawled as Charlotte.

Raleigh also doesn't look/seem as large as your trying to paint the city as, especially when compared to OKC.
 
Old 07-25-2017, 08:18 PM
 
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That's false, Raleigh is as sprawled as Charlotte.

Raleigh also doesn't look/seem as large as your trying to paint the city as, especially when compared to OKC.
False. I don't think Raleigh and Charlotte are that large actually. Raleigh just happens to be larger than OKC by every measurement Reading and traveling are fundamental.
 
Old 07-25-2017, 08:25 PM
 
Location: Denver
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No more Raleigh threads for a year.
 
Old 07-25-2017, 08:29 PM
 
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No more Raleigh threads for a year.
Lol.

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Old 07-25-2017, 08:30 PM
 
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No more Raleigh threads for a year.
No kidding. Plus, the OP didn't really state any specific criteria for comparing OKC to other cities, which is against the city vs. city forum rules. Besides, there are already other threads discussing city tiers and such.
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