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Old 10-31-2017, 02:02 PM
 
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I’m not sure I understand what you’re trying to say.
He's saying they are cheap because they have large Black populations. I'm guessing he's never been to DC.
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Old 10-31-2017, 02:05 PM
 
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He's saying they are cheap because they have large Black populations. I'm guessing he's never been to DC.
Yeah it was very thinly veiled. Also ignores the ridiculous homeless population in the Pacific Northwest.
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Old 10-31-2017, 02:38 PM
 
Location: Northeast states
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Two things that go in Chicago and Philly's favor compared to the other three cities:

1. Space. Chicago and Philly both several times larger than Boston and SF, so they have lots of land to work with and spread out the cost.

2. Deindustrialization. As much as they have recovered, both Chicago and Philly experienced a major loss of population (Chicago has lost almost 1 million since their peak, and Philly 500,000) and industry during the Rust Belt era. When that occurred, land and housing prices were depressed so much so that they are just now starting to recover from it.

It also created a situation where there is no lack of housing in either city. Something that was never true to the same extent in SF or Boston (which also were far more affordable in 80s) even though they experienced similar periods of population loss.

As for NYC..it's NYC. It hasn't be a cheap place to live since the 19th century.
NYC was cheap 80s and early 90s you could rent nice apartment in Manhattan for $1800. Apartments in Brooklyn and The Bronx were dirt cheap 25 years ago.
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Old 11-01-2017, 07:52 AM
 
Location: ITP - City of Atlanta Proper
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NYC was cheap 80s and early 90s you could rent nice apartment in Manhattan for $1800. Apartments in Brooklyn and The Bronx were dirt cheap 25 years ago.
Cheaper than it is today, but compared to other cities it was still sky high. I will walk back some of that though in regards to the Bronx, Brooklyn, and Queens. In the 80s you could get a brownstone or rowhouse for pennies on the dollar it seemed.
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Old 11-04-2017, 01:20 PM
 
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NYC was cheap 80s and early 90s you could rent nice apartment in Manhattan for $1800. Apartments in Brooklyn and The Bronx were dirt cheap 25 years ago.
1800 dollars is not cheap now, and it certainly wasn't cheap in 1995 dollars. But yes the city was considerably more affordable in the 90s.
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Old 11-04-2017, 01:23 PM
 
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I think it depends what you're looking for, Boston has plenty of sports bars. If you want to go to a club Boston has some but its not the place to go clubbing.
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Demographics are big part of it. Same reason Seattle and Portland have a fraction of the crime of a St Louis or Chicago.
NYC has over 2 million black people in the city proper and it's very expensive!

Oakland is also 25% black or so
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Old 11-04-2017, 01:26 PM
 
Location: Nashville TN, Cincinnati, OH
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Chicago is expensive in real estate in a lot of the nice parts of that city and still has high taxes. Philly is a good bargain but any city is compared to Boston, NY and DC, East Coast is pretty expensive especially if you want to buy a home.
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Old 11-04-2017, 01:55 PM
 
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NYC was cheap 80s and early 90s you could rent nice apartment in Manhattan for $1800. Apartments in Brooklyn and The Bronx were dirt cheap 25 years ago.
that was also the worst times for NYC where crime rate was through the roof.
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Old 11-04-2017, 02:36 PM
 
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The Philadelphia area and Chicagoland area simply has more land available for development which decreases the cost to buy real estate there compared with either the San Francisco Bay Area, New York, or Boston which are more geographically constrained and which means that the land value of what little land there is is going to be more expensive as a result.

It does not mean that Chicago or Philadelphia isn't desirable in any way since both cities are seeing a lot of development taking place at the moment within the city itself especially in areas like the West Loop in Chicago or University City in Philadelphia.
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Old 11-04-2017, 02:42 PM
 
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1800 dollars is not cheap now, and it certainly wasn't cheap in 1995 dollars. But yes the city was considerably more affordable in the 90s.
I rented 2Br in Ft Green for $1200 in 2000. Two years later, I moved, with friends, into a $2000 LES 3 br. New York has always been more expensive than most cities but it really went into hyper gentrification 10 to 15 years ago.
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