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Old 08-10-2017, 12:39 PM
 
Location: Clemson, SC by way of Tyler,TX
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What does this have to do with the thread topic?

We have had plenty of threads about conservative cities in this subforum without actually getting into politics. Somehow people see a thread about liberal cities as an invitation to discuss politics and engage in attacks on liberals.
I wasn't attacking liberals. You posted the link with the visuals and I said I thought it was funny that Clinton only won one county in Texas among whites. Then, I got attacked as some have viewed that as a pro-Austin comment. If you will read my other posts, I am critical of both sides of the line.
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Old 08-10-2017, 03:16 PM
 
Location: ITP - City of Atlanta Proper
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I'd kick Boston and Philly up a level and demote Atlanta. On second thought, I might not demote Atlanta, but I would not place it in the same tier with Philly. Here is Clinton's share of the White vote in metro Atlanta's largest counties.

Dekalb - 56.5%
Fulton - 45.8%
Clayton - 33.8%
Cobb - 31.0%
Gwinnett - 27.5%
Douglas - 25.4%
Forsyth - 19.7%

Atlanta's suburbs are becoming more moderate, but I wouldn't describe the metro as liberal. I'd say the same thing about metro Baltimore.

Baltimore City - 67.4%
Howard - 56.0%
Baltimore County - 43.3%
Anne Arundel - 39.9%
Harford - 27.8%
Carroll - 26.9%

Howard County may join the DC MSA next Census, so I'm not sure if we can even say it "counts" for Baltimore.
I'd like to hear your methodolgy here, specically around judging this by the White vote. For instance, for the Atlanta core counties you listed above, four of them no longer have a White majority, and two of them will not by next Census. Much different than the core counties of Philadelphia and Boston which are far more "White" than the core urban and suburban counties of Atlanta and Baltimore.

Are you saying that only whites are liberal? Clearly that isn't the case.
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Old 08-10-2017, 04:33 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Are you saying that only whites are liberal? Clearly that isn't the case.
No, I'm not saying that only Whites are liberal. Someone mentioned this before in a thread long ago, but voting preferences don't change much among Blacks (and not that much among other minorities either for that matter) while they do among Whites from region to region. If only 30% of the Whites in a large metro vote Democratic, then it's fairly safe to say it's not liberal.
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Old 08-22-2017, 01:13 PM
 
Location: Clemson, SC by way of Tyler,TX
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No, I'm not saying that only Whites are liberal. Someone mentioned this before in a thread long ago, but voting preferences don't change much among Blacks (and not that much among other minorities either for that matter) while they do among Whites from region to region. If only 30% of the Whites in a large metro vote Democratic, then it's fairly safe to say it's not liberal.
That's all I've been trying to say. Thank you for articulating it well.
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