Western City Tiers... (state, place, populations, Los Angeles)
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I.
Los Angeles
II.
San Francisco
III.
Seattle
IV.
San Jose, San Diego, Phoenix, Denver
V.
Oakland, Portland, Sacramento, Las Vegas
VI.
Salt Lake City, Honolulu, Long Beach, Anaheim
VII.
Anaheim, Albuquerque, Fresno, Riverside, Tucson, Tacoma, Bakersfield
VIII.
Boise, Colorado Springs, Spokane
It's amazing to note just how dominant California is within it's region, with an influence that stretches from across the Pacific to Hawaii, up to Alaska, and pretty much east to the Mississippi. As a state, there is no question that California is the most well-known, influential state in this nation; it's impossible to account for the range of cultural contributions that have come from there...
That being said, I do not consider San Francisco as a peer city to Los Angeles. The Bay Area is probably the most dynamic region in the country, but SF is just too small, and lacks the overall muscle LA has. Los Angeles County has a larger population alone than the entire Bay Area, with a GDP now over $1 trillion, and if we add the I.E. to its metro, the gap becomes a little wider...
Only a handful of cities in the nation are stronger than SF. It and it's larger region hold their own, but LA is king...
Seattle is in that weird spot where it's separated itself from everyone below it, but has not--and probably never will--catch the cities above it...
I wanted to do a Top 25 for The West. The rest of the list is very arguable, what do you guys think?
I'm breaking my tiers down by population. I use MSA numbers for all except Los Angeles, San Francisco, and Salt Lake City. I feel the CSA numbers for those cities are more representative of those areas. I'll only list the top 25 by name:
1A - Los Angeles
-----10 million-----
1B - San Francisco
-----5 million-----
2A - Phoenix
2A - Seattle
2A - San Diego
2A - Denver
-----2.5 million-----
2B - Portland
2B - Salt Lake City
2B - Sacramento
2B - Las Vegas
-----1.1million-----
3A - Tucson
3A - Honolulu
3A - Fresno
3A - Albuquerque
3A - Bakersfield
-----750,000-----
3B - Colorado Springs
3B - Boise
3B - Spokane
3B - Modesto
-----500,000-----
4A - Visalia
4A - Reno
4A - Santa Barbara
4A - Salinas
4A - Salem
4A - Anchorage
-----250,000-----
4B
-----100,000-----
5
Your ranking appears to be by city limits but your analysis appears to be by CSA/MSA. I'm somewhat confused.
Yes! Very confusing. SF as a city is not very impressive. It's a cool place to live and visit but has become a bedroom community to Silicon Valley. If ranking by MSA, LA is first, SF is second, SD, Phoenix and Seattle are third, etc. The Bay Area and LA metro cities get removed from the rankings.
VII.
Anaheim, Albuquerque, Fresno, Riverside, Tucson, Tacoma, Bakersfield
VIII.
Boise, Colorado Springs, Spokane
It's amazing to note just how dominant California is within it's region, with an influence that stretches from across the Pacific to Hawaii, up to Alaska, and pretty much east to the Mississippi. As a state, there is no question that California is the most well-known, influential state in this nation; it's impossible to account for the range of cultural contributions that have come from there...
That being said, I do not consider San Francisco as a peer city to Los Angeles. The Bay Area is probably the most dynamic region in the country, but SF is just too small, and lacks the overall muscle LA has. Los Angeles County has a larger population alone than the entire Bay Area, with a GDP now over $1 trillion, and if we add the I.E. to its metro, the gap becomes a little wider...
Only a handful of cities in the nation are stronger than SF. It and it's larger region hold their own, but LA is king...
Seattle is in that weird spot where it's separated itself from everyone below it, but has not--and probably never will--catch the cities above it...
I wanted to do a Top 25 for The West. The rest of the list is very arguable, what do you guys think?
Not surprising as California has almost 40 million population....add up population of all the other western states and may not be as much. California is a powerhouse, not even Texas comes close.
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Recent tragedy aside (which can happen anywhere, unfortunately), I think Las Vegas is making a strong push to surpass Sacramento and Portland in Tier V. It's recent acquisition of both an NHL and NFL team are evidence of this, and the metro is still growing like gangbusters. Also, unlike Sacramento, Portland, Oakland and even Phoenix and San Jose, Las Vegas is a "destination" city, both for domestic and international visitors. Its visitation numbers are way ahead for a metro its size, and above cities' with much, much larger populations. It depends on how much weight one wants to put on certain factors, so while Vegas underperforms on GDP and economic diversity (significant factors, to be sure), it knocks it out of the park in terms of branding, cultural significance and growth.
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