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Old 01-19-2018, 08:40 PM
Status: "waite untill next year. It was fun while it lasted !" (set 15 days ago)
 
Location: Beautiful Northwest Houston
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I think you kinda proved the obsession point? Though Houston and Dallas metros are similar sized populations. Houston sees it is a TRUE ONE MAJOR CITY METRO vs Dallas that MUST SHARE A MAJOR CITY STATUS with Ft Worth. Surely on C-D it is .....

Saying one metro is in the middle of nowhere vs the other.... also shows the Need to DOWNPLAY Dallas over Houston on your part. You'all (Texas major cities) seem obsessed with Austin also with it faster growing too. But blame it on a coastal obsession ..... especially Cali. But all Texas larger cities still boast great growth.... even if its mostly sprawling further and further.

Then you have Houston as the only major city dropped from Amazons list first..... but still kept Austin and Dallas. Even though Bezos having lived in Houston when very young.

Houston on C-D also seemed obsessed in claiming taking over Chicago's third city status in a few short years (though not close in metro populations. But in North America .... Toronto did that in 2013. Harvey may have delayed it for Houston too? The 2020 census will tell us how close. I'm sure Houston needing a boost and more felt respect due to it ....will jump all over a overtaking Chicago city proper. They will just say in Chicago ..... its not our Metro though ... being secure in a core that won't be taking aback seat anytime soon and well-built environment in its housing stock that is not throwaway older ranch homes.
No Greater Houston and DFW have similar populations. Greater Houston is much bigger than the Dallas metro division. So this is fact not obsessive rhetoric.

Most of the bickering you see on CD is very myopic and based mostly on pop cultural references of the last few decades of media imagery , you cannot know the true relationship between Texas metros without having at least some knowledge of Texas history past the statistics. What happens on CD is between individuals that may, or may not, represent the true nature of what the attitudes are in the cities they claim to be from, so using any empirical observations based on CD "debates" is useless.

Its funny you bring up Houston's snub by Amazon with out really saying why, but whatever happens with the final decision, 19 of the 20 "finalist", will be in the same boat as Houston is now, including at least one if not both of the Texas cities.

As far as Chicago goes all Metros do have some rivalry with each other as evidenced by your reference to the Amazon butt kissing contest that 20 cities have gotten into the playoffs over. Most are friendly, others not so much, but those rivalries are off topic and beyond my capability to fully articulate...
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Old 01-19-2018, 09:15 PM
 
Location: The Dirty South.
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Now that y'all mention it, Houston seems to have a minor rivalrly with Chicago and, to a lesser extent, Los Angeles, both of which are one sided.
On cd yes. In real life no
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Old 01-19-2018, 10:08 PM
 
Location: Clemson, SC by way of Tyler,TX
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Not totally sure on this one, but how about Austin with Dallas and/or Houston?
Austin is in its own little bubble and could care less about any Texas city. Houstonians seem obsessed with Dallas while Dallas could careless. We've seen what Dallasites think of Austin here. They hate it or the attention it gets.


Austin is so much smaller in size, population and economics that it doesn't think about catching Houston or Dallas in anything. Also, its residents are very anti-growth. They openly tell out of towners not to move there.
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Old 01-19-2018, 10:12 PM
 
Location: South Padre Island, TX
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Austin is in its own little bubble and could care less about any Texas city. Houstonians seem obsessed with Dallas while Dallas could careless. We've seen what Dallasites think of Austin here. They hate it or the attention it gets.


Austin is so much smaller in size, population and economics that it doesn't think about catching Houston or Dallas in anything. Also, its residents are very anti-growth. They openly tell out of towners not to move there.
Stay off Reddit.
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Old 01-19-2018, 10:59 PM
 
Location: Aurora, Colorado
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SF is obsessed with being better than LA meanwhile LA seems to be unbothered and knows it’s status.

EDIT: I see the OP already brought this one up. It’s probably the most obvious case lol
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Old 01-20-2018, 12:41 AM
 
Location: DMV Area
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Dallas is a city that was born and breed on its competition with Houston. That is what has driven it to be a metropolis in the middle of nowhere. This feigned indifference you elude to is well played but totally fictitious.....

BTW Dallas needs Fort Worth because without it Houston is much larger and the gap in importance is even bigger than it is now. So Dallas may act like they can do without their little brother but its all just that an act, deep inside they are in a constant state of panic that they may slip and fall....
Leave it to a Houston Homer to prove everything people say. This post epitomizes the insecurities and obnoxious and strident inferiority complex Houstonians have about Dallas and their constant need to cut the city down.
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Old 01-20-2018, 12:47 AM
 
Location: DMV Area
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Now that y'all mention it, Houston seems to have a minor rivalrly with Chicago and, to a lesser extent, Los Angeles, both of which are one sided.
Right. People in Chicago and Los Angeles donít consider Houston an equal/peer city as much as Houstonians perceive themselves to be. There are lots of people who move there from both cities, but Houston is seen as a cheaper place to live and still be in a large metropolitan area, not as an alternative choice/lateral option.
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Old 01-20-2018, 01:33 AM
 
Location: California x North Carolina (soon)...
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There is absolutely a Raleigh obsession with Charlotte. The need to criticize anything in Charlotte that either doesn't exist in Raleigh, or is larger or more plentiful in Charlotte, the need to constantly criticize for no reason is proof positive. Raleigh is doing well for itself but some Raleighites are jealous of Charlotte...

The Bay Area, most specifically San Francisco, absolutely is jealous of LA. LA is a monstrosity by comparison and in the real world nobody considers San Francisco and LA as equals, and yet, Bay Areans do everything in their power to measure up to LA...

There is a New York obsession with LA, but not in the "we wanna be like LA" way. Rather, I think it's rather obvious that LA is the only competition New York really has, and NY wants that spotlight to themselves. There is an odd obsession there...

Sacramento is obsessed with The Bay, specifically Oakland. Yet Bay Areans take every opportunity they get to badmouth Sac....

I would say that Cleveland definitely seems to have an inferiority complex versus larger Midwest cities (Cincinnati, Columbus, Indianapolis, St. Louis, Minneapolis, Kansas City), and Pittsburgh.
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Old 01-20-2018, 03:04 AM
 
Location: San Antonio
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Oh, please. As a nonpartisan native Texan who is from neither city, I have experienced first hand the vitriol that Dallasites and Austinites can throw in Houston's direction. The difference is that Houstonians here are willing to admit there is a rivalry while some in the other cities pretend they're too good to be apart of it.

Here on City Data I've noticed that it's mostly transplants who aren't even from TX that insist it's one sided, but us natives know the real deal. Houstonians hate the Cowboys and the local Aggie alumni hate the Longhorns. Dallas hates that Houston has gotten closer to hosting the Olympics, and Austin pretends to be as diverse and worldly as Houston actually is. All of these cities sling mud at each other while San Antonio sits back and watches it go down.

All kidding aside, Houston remains the alpha city of the big three. It's the oldest, it played a more integral role in Texas history and it's still the most economically important city in the state, boom or bust notwithstanding.
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Old 01-20-2018, 04:06 AM
 
Location: Washington State
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I'm originally from Oregon and Portland had a major superiority complex with Seattle, despite Seattle being the better city IMO.
Totally...this is the one I'm most aware of. Emerald City people don't care about Portland but the Portlandia people have an attitude about Seattle. I like Portland but it's no Seattle.
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