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I never said L.A was greater,but I did say L.A can compete with NYC...I know some people will not agree to what i've posted,but I wanted to post this so that others will realize L.A's Achievement,instead of trying to downgrade it.
(U.S Largest Metropolitan GDP)
1)New York-Newark-Jersey City, NY-NJ-CT-PA (Metropolitan Statistical Area)$1,717,712,000,000 GDP.
2)Los Angeles-Long Beach-Anaheim, CALIFORNIA (Metropolitan Statistical Area)$1,043,735,000,000 GDP.
If you include The Riverside-San Bernardino-Ontario Area GDP of $157,931,000,000 GDP...L.A's GDP totals to around($1,200,735,000,000)
(U.S Largest Metropolitan Area By Population)
1)New York-Newark-Jersey City, NY-NJ-CT-PA MSA Population= 20,320,876
2)Los Angeles-Long Beach-Anaheim, CALIFORNIA MSA Population=13,353,907
If you include The Riverside-San Bernardino-Ontario Population of 4,580,670 then L.A's Population reaches (17,934,577)
As you can see The gap between L.A and NYC has lessened in Population and GDP...Remove NJ-CT-PA from the equation and L.A and NYC's gap becomes much closer.
Some may be wondering why i've included The Riverside-San Bernardino-Ontario MSA,because it is technically L.A's backyard and I can only wonder why some sources is subdividing L.A's Metro into parts,while NYC gets to add other States to theirs
On the city and MSA level, the population gap grew a little, on the CSA level, the population gap decreased a bit.
However, the main criticism of LA in comparison to NYC, the Bay Area, Chicago, and DC has generally revolved around its economic might which includes raw GDP figures but also where headquarters of companies are among other things. Things were looking really bad for LA in the 90s through the 00s as tv and film production started scattering and the formerly strong automotive, defense and aerospace sectors moved away (and somehow even hospitality groups moved to the DC area), but I think things in recent years have been looking up especially in tech.
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On the city and MSA level, the population gap grew a little, on the CSA level, the population gap decreased a bit.
However, the main criticism of LA in comparison to NYC, the Bay Area, Chicago, and DC has generally revolved around its economic might which includes raw GDP figures but also where headquarters of companies are among other things. Things were looking really bad for LA in the 90s through the 00s as tv and film production started scattering and the formerly strong automotive, defense and aerospace sectors moved away (and somehow even hospitality groups moved to the DC area), but I think things in recent years have been looking up especially in tech.
It's just called being honest with comparisons we make, this is C-D, so if not here then where. If I can be honest and admit to the fact that no city not named NYC comes close to the size and scale of Los Angeles, nor in overall diversity, amenities, shopping, total airport traffic etc. Then to the contrary it can certainly be acknowledged that the overall output in certain metrics from the entirety of LA's metro area by percentage could and should be higher based on how sizable it is.
I understand that many people in real life though, value the "lived experience" in an LA vs NY. That being said, LA does come "closest" to matching NY's lived experience, and I'm sure there are many people would place LA ahead of NYC to their preference. I know most people don't care about what's on paper, but I think it is a clear fact that NYC on paper is strongly in the #1 spot, honestly for good at least in our lives. I only see London as contender in the West, if that city were in North America it would be a non discussion for who competes with NYC.
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The following are from a previous thread posted by Facts Kill Rhetoric, a couple years ago:
Per Capita Total Personal Income (TPI) by Metropolitan Statistical Area (MSA) in 2014:
01. San Jose: $73,887
02. San Francisco/Oakland: $72,364
03. Boston: $64,311
04. Washington DC: $62,975
05. New York: $61,440
06. Seattle: $58,205
07. Hartford: $56,078
08. Philadelphia: $54,936
09. Houston: $54,820
10. Denver: $53,983
11. Baltimore: $53,690
12. Minneapolis/Saint Paul: $53,166
13. San Diego: $51,459 14. Los Angeles: $50,751
15. Chicago: $50,690
Population Base for Combined Statistical Areas (CSAs) in 2014:
1. New York: 23,632,722 2. Los Angeles: 18,550,288
3. Chicago: 9,928,312
4. Washington DC-Baltimore: 9,546,579
5. San Francisco Bay Area: 8,607,423
Per Capita Total Personal Income (TPI) by Combined Statistical Area (CSA), 2014:
1. San Francisco Bay Area: $65,907
2. New York: $61,546
3. Washington DC-Baltimore: $58,681
4. Chicago: $50,172 5. Los Angeles: $46,547
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as you are well aware from basic mathematics, the larger the sample size the more difficult it is to sustain a higher per capita or median average.....how many times larger is the NY metro MSA area than San Jose, SF, Boston, Seattle etc. etc. etc....no different than anything else involving averages and larger sample sizes--how many next Ted Williams' do we see batting .400 in April based on 100 at bats vs. the number of future Ted Williams' we see come September with 500-600 at bats, i.e larger sample size?
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Per capita real GDP by metropolitan area 2017:
San Jose-Sunnyvale-Santa Clara, CA (Metropolitan Statistical Area) 128,308
San Francisco-Oakland-Hayward, CA (Metropolitan Statistical Area) 89,978
Seattle-Tacoma-Bellevue, WA (Metropolitan Statistical Area) 80,833
Boston-Cambridge-Newton, MA-NH (Metropolitan Statistical Area) 78,465
Washington-Arlington-Alexandria, DC-VA-MD-WV (Metropolitan Statistical Area) 74,000
New York-Newark-Jersey City, NY-NJ-PA (Metropolitan Statistical Area) 71,084
Boulder, CO (Metropolitan Statistical Area) 70,077 Los Angeles-Long Beach-Anaheim, CA (Metropolitan Statistical Area) 67,763
Dallas-Fort Worth-Arlington, TX (Metropolitan Statistical Area) 64,824
Denver-Aurora-Lakewood, CO (Metropolitan Statistical Area) 64,379
Portland-Vancouver-Hillsboro, OR-WA (Metropolitan Statistical Area) 63,817
Chicago-Naperville-Elgin, IL-IN-WI (Metropolitan Statistical Area) 61,170
San Diego-Carlsbad, CA (Metropolitan Statistical Area) 60,517
Baltimore-Columbia-Towson, MD (Metropolitan Statistical Area) 59,079
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