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New York City and Washington, D.C. 122 64.55%
Los Angeles and San Francisco 54 28.57%
Too close to call 13 6.88%
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Old 03-06-2018, 05:29 AM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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DC is awash is corruption
Yea and we didn't vote those guys in, you guys did. These are your corrupt folks not ours. Local gov't is doing just fine.
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Old 03-06-2018, 05:39 AM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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Gotta love it when people don't have their facts straight. International tourism nationwide and here is down yes. But remember we're the capital, we always come back.

https://wtop.com/business-finance/20...visitors-fell/


https://www.hotelnewsresource.com/article92947.html

How's life out there in Frisco?
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Old 03-06-2018, 07:11 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Gotta love it when people don't have their facts straight. International tourism nationwide and here is down yes. But remember we're the capital, we always come back.

https://wtop.com/business-finance/20...visitors-fell/


https://www.hotelnewsresource.com/article92947.html
Er the point was international tourism is down and your own link confirms its down in DC as well so...
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Old 03-06-2018, 07:20 AM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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Er the point was international tourism is down and your own link confirms its down in DC as well so...
I acknowledged it being down here too in my post, although I doubt for long. The rest of the country, I'm not so sure.

There are a record number of hotel openings, and increased international flight destinations at the regions airports. This is no where close to a trend. Domestic tourism here is at an all time high as of 2017, which would be contrary to that posters "dreary" claim.
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Old 03-06-2018, 07:42 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Well, I personally draw a direct correlation between Donald Trump and NY and DC both declining in this ranking:

Paris continues its reign as highest-rated city | GfK Global

NY fell from 3rd to 4th, DC fell from 9th to 11th.

Meanwhile LA held steady at 5th and SF in it's first year being included in the study catapulted all the way to 9th.

LA and SF are far less affected by negative views people have of the US, and in my travels this past year, I have found that people around the world know CA is openly defiant of Trump/ Fed( sanctuary cities, recreational marijuana, etc)
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Old 03-06-2018, 07:48 AM
 
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Well, I personally draw a direct correlation between Donald Trump and NY and DC both declining in this ranking:

Paris continues its reign as highest-rated city | GfK Global

NY fell from 3rd to 4th, DC fell from 9th to 11th.

Meanwhile LA held steady at 5th and SF in it's first year being included in the study catapulted all the way to 9th.

LA and SF are far less affected by negative views people have of the US, and in my travels this past year, I have found that people around the world know CA is openly defiant of Trump/ Fed( sanctuary cities, recreational marijuana, etc)
Well, based on this list, add proximity to Boston into the conversation of pros for DC and NYC.
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Old 03-06-2018, 11:06 AM
 
Location: San Francisco
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That’s simply not the case. Google links to so much more than what you’ve posted: Slate, The Guardian, Chicago Tribune, LA Times, The Atlantic, BBC, Globe and Mail, Mercury News...There’s no point in me even listing because it’s pretty much any media online presence, and hundreds more from across the world that’s now easily accessible. NY-centered media gets diluted within all those choices. Google News isn’t media. It’s more powerful. It acts like a front page that filters and determines what the public sees and clicks. You no longer need to access the front page of newspaper sites but instead link directly into the specific article on subjects presented on Google News.

Reddit is a forum where posters habitually post news stories for discussion. That itself is an invaluable gauge for keeping up to date about what people are talking about. Social media and traditional media have hybridized. They no longer serve as separate entities for the millennial generation. And then you add Twitter and Facebook which serves similar purposes, and we’ve seen how influential Facebook was in filtering media during the last election. Doesn’t matter what you technically define these entities. That’s how people are increasingly exposed to news, especially younger generations.

Most Americans get their news via NY.
About four-in-ten Americans often get news online | Pew Research Center

TV - Most of giant media production media companies are controlled by NY.
Online - the most visited websites are NY-Based, as my previous link said.
Radio - Most of the top listened to news radio/satellite radio shows are based in NY
Print - NY is the capital of print media.

Overall winner is New York, and by a rather large margin.

No one said ALL media is based in NY, just like ALL tech is not based in Silicon Valley, and ALL energy is not based in Houston, and ALL film is not based in LA, but NYC overwhelmingly controls it just like those cities overwhelmingly control their signature industries. ALL finance is not in Manhattan but NYC is overwhelmingly controls American finance. BTW, Slate is based in NYC, BBC and Guardian are British companies (but their U.S. newsroom is based in New York), no one reads Mercury News, LA Times is dead, Chicago Tribune is unpopular and neither of them are based in Silicon Valley (unless you're trying to make an argument that Chicago and LA are the media capitals, which makes this conversation confusing). etc. etc. I provided you with a list of the most visited news websites and they're nearly all NY-Based.

Most popular "News" on Twitter, again, is simply linked to hard-hitting sources from the NY (and DC) based media. Put it this way - Twitter could die and there would be news. NYT, CNN, WSJ, MSNBC, WaPo, NBC, ABC, CNBC, CBS and Fox "News" could die and Americans would be in total news blackout. Google is wonderful, and we are the tech capital of America, but there is no such thing as Google and Twitter News. Aggregator is not media. What's next, Silicon Valley is also the fashion capital of America because people use aggregator shopping websites and online shopping web coding?

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Old 03-06-2018, 11:10 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn the best borough in NYC!
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Hardly true anymore. Media is now an internet thing. Sand Hill Road leads the finance sector. Alphabet has the largest advertising revenues. Amazon is killing legacy retailers. NYC is important in the legacy parts of these industries but leadership is now on the west coast.

Add the following to LA/SF leadership: Music/movies, space exploration, electric and driverless cars, artificial intelligence, quantum computing,
Hardly true? Um very true.
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Old 03-06-2018, 11:22 AM
 
Location: In the heights
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The thing is, the West Coast and the Northeast both have a large degree of national and international influence. What’s really been the trend has been how the South, especially but not only Texas has gained, while the Midwest has shown relatively modest growth in comparison to other regions. The US is actually fairly decentralized overall that even though NYC and DC are probably the most powerful pair of cities/metros in the US, the Bay Area and LA have been gaining due as have many other cities/metros in the US.

It would be really nice if the Midwest were to also get a larger share of the growth as a strong Chicago and Detroit would be great. The good thing is that the last several years has seen many Midwestern city cores actually looking to stabilize and potentially go back into population growth after decades of loss.
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Old 03-06-2018, 11:32 AM
 
Location: San Francisco
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Gotta love it when people don't have their facts straight. International tourism nationwide and here is down yes. But remember we're the capital, we always come back.

https://wtop.com/business-finance/20...visitors-fell/


https://www.hotelnewsresource.com/article92947.html

How's life out there in Frisco?
Yes, and international is what we're talking about. San Francisco gets more international visitors than DC. And by a comfortable margin.
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