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Old 05-20-2018, 06:03 PM
 
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Ok. Then how do you explain the lack of interest?
You're assuming it being lower than other cities is due to lack of interest. That's naive. If you have limited time and can only hit one place and surrounding areas, Chicago's out of the way. Doesn't mean people aren't interested. It's world famous. NYC's the number one city in the country, LA has Hollywood, Disneyland in Orlando, Miami is Latin America's gateway, D.C. is the capital, etc. Of course Chicago isn't going to be number one. In fact, it's numbers, which are growing rapidly, show how popular it really is. I've never met one person who's been to Chicago and hasn't loved it. And your comment about its urbanity is silly at best. Having lived in London and NY, Chicago's up there with the best in that regard.
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Old 05-20-2018, 06:16 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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You're assuming it being lower than other cities is due to lack of interest. That's naive. If you have limited time and can only hit one place and surrounding areas, Chicago's out of the way. Doesn't mean people aren't interested. It's world famous. NYC's the number one city in the country, LA has Hollywood, Disneyland in Orlando, Miami is Latin America's gateway, D.C. is the capital, etc. Of course Chicago isn't going to be number one. In fact, it's numbers, which are growing rapidly, show how popular it really is. I've never met one person who's been to Chicago and hasn't loved it. And your comment about its urbanity is silly at best. Having lived in London and NY, Chicago's up there with the best in that regard.
You’re perhaps a little too sensitive. I never suggested that Chicago wasn’t urban, just not especially urban or interesting to people from other international cities. For example, Manchester, England is very urban and has lots to do, but most people from the US choose London.

I think that we’re saying the same thing, except I’m doing it without name calling.
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Old 05-20-2018, 06:22 PM
 
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You’re perhaps a little too sensitive. I never suggested that Chicago wasn’t urban, just not especially urban or interesting to people from other international cities. For example, Manchester, England is very urban and has lots to do, but most people from the US choose London.

I think that we’re saying the same thing, except I’m doing it without name calling.
perhaps ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Old 05-20-2018, 06:22 PM
 
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You’re perhaps a little too sensitive. I never suggested that Chicago wasn’t urban, just not especially urban or interesting to people from other international cities. For example, Manchester, England is very urban and has lots to do, but most people from the US choose London.

I think that we’re saying the same thing, except I’m doing it without name calling.
As a previous poster stated, Chicago has a very good amount of international visitors, considering it's in the middle of the country, and not in a "vacationland" part of the US.
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Old 05-20-2018, 07:29 PM
 
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Overseas Visitors (Top 25 U.S. Cities), 2016:

2016:

01. New York: 9,800,000

02. Miami: 5,379,000

03. Los Angeles: 4,977,000

04. Orlando: 4,473,000

05. San Francisco: 3,571,000

06. Las Vegas: 3,327,000

07. Honolulu (Oahu): 2,394,000

08. Washington, D.C.: 2,090,000

09. Boston: 1,526,000

10. Chicago: 1,466,000

11. San Diego: 1,169,000

12. Fort Lauderdale: 1,015,000

13. Houston: 819,000

14. Flagstaff: 771,000

15. Atlanta: 725,000

16. Anaheim: 695,000

17. Florida Keys-Key West: 662,000

18. Seattle: 658,000

19. Tampa: 628,000

20. Philadelphia: 628,000

21. Dallas: 571,000

22. San Jose: 489,000

23. New Orleans: 462,000

24. Naples: 380,000

25. West Palm Beach: 350,000


https://travel.trade.gov/outreachpag...ies%202016.pdf

I usually post both this and the other list each year but forgot to and this updated list hasn't been posted on this site yet. This list is by the United States government's trade department and it only includes overseas visitors. Meaning Canada and Mexico are not included. More details on that are in the link provided.

The other list (not this one) I post every year is by a private company and includes all international visitors, including Canada and Mexico.

South Florida by itself is 20% of the entire list with 5 entrants (i.e. Miami, Fort Lauderdale, Florida Keys, Naples, West Palm Beach) with 4 of those being in Southeast Florida (i.e. Miami, Fort Lauderdale, Florida Keys, and West Palm Beach) and 1 being in Southwest Florida (i.e. Naples).
Where's Dubuque on this list?
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Old 05-20-2018, 07:43 PM
 
Location: Northern Virginia
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Trains will help LA's city-related tourism a lot. Finally you can do a lot of the best stuff without a rental car or figuring out the bus system.

When I visit a city I'm used to taking the train from airport to a hotel on the downtown fringe, then walking to most places. I can handle a ton of walking. But DTLA to Hollywood and back was a bit much on my last visit (realizing transit existed), and the beach was just too hard to get to, before Santa Monica's extension a few months later.

I am pretty familiar with L.A. and recently had to show a few visitors around the area who had never been to California. It was actually rather difficult to pin down what exactly would be of interest to a visitor, and how to logistically tie things together. There's just not that *one* thing that you gotta do in L.A. and then you can go go home. I always felt that L.A. is more about its vibe than about any sights, but that's tough to sell to tourists who only have a few days.
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