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You must be fun at parties. Toodles, I'm outta here.
So being fun at parties is always agreeing with what other people say rather than state my own opinions. Ok then. That doesn't sound like fun to me.
It is interesting to me from a psychology standpoint that people who didn't attend Southern Cal are territorial about it being the 'real' USC. I think any college that has a name that correspond with the initials of USC is a 'real' USC.
If I were to talk at length about UofSC , I would call it University of South Carolina first and then use USC as an abbreviation. Unless you are saying the university name numerous times, there is no reason to use the abbreviation.
So, some previous post hit most of these, but I've lived in several regions of the country, and have family and friends in most of the rest:
U. of Miami: Miami, U-M or the U.
U. of Miami-Ohio: Miami of Ohio, possibly nearby some call it Miami.
U. of Missouri: Missouri, MU, or Mizzou
U. of Michigan: Michigan or U of M. A previous poster said U-M, I've seen that written a few times but never heard anybody refer to it as that out loud. When it's said aloud, the 'of' is always in there.
U. of Mississippi: Ole Miss, Mississippi, I haven't heard it called UM or U of M, but haven't spent a lot of time nearer than East Texas.
U. of Minnesota: Minnesota, 'the U' locally, but much less famous nationally than Miami for this name. Also 'U of M' locally, but less famous than Michigan nationally.
U. of Montana: Montana, not sure how people abbreviate it.
Now USC and South Carolina: throughout the country outside of some parts of SEC country, USC means the University of Southern California. It's a much more famous school for both academics and athletics than South Carolina. Probably the only places someone would think South Carolina over Southern California for USC would be North and South Carolina and maybe Georgia.
So, some previous post hit most of these, but I've lived in several regions of the country, and have family and friends in most of the rest:
U. of Miami: Miami, U-M or the U.
U. of Miami-Ohio: Miami of Ohio, possibly nearby some call it Miami.
U. of Missouri: Missouri, MU, or Mizzou
U. of Michigan: Michigan or U of M. A previous poster said U-M, I've seen that written a few times but never heard anybody refer to it as that out loud. When it's said aloud, the 'of' is always in there.
U. of Mississippi: Ole Miss, Mississippi, I haven't heard it called UM or U of M, but haven't spent a lot of time nearer than East Texas.
U. of Minnesota: Minnesota, 'the U' locally, but much less famous nationally than Miami for this name. Also 'U of M' locally, but less famous than Michigan nationally.
U. of Montana: Montana, not sure how people abbreviate it.
Now USC and South Carolina: throughout the country outside of some parts of SEC country, USC means the University of Southern California. It's a much more famous school for both academics and athletics than South Carolina. Probably the only places someone would think South Carolina over Southern California for USC would be North and South Carolina and maybe Georgia.
How do you know this if you don't know most Americans?
You are proving my point that people who gush over Southern Cal academics and athletics think it is the 'real' USC. But I don't see any reason to believe most Americans care about Southern Cal academics or athletics.
How do you know this if you don't know most Americans?
You are proving my point that people who gush over Southern Cal academics and athletics think it is the 'real' USC. But I don't see any reason to believe most Americans care about Southern Cal academics or athletics.
You are absolutely right. Many (if not most) Americans do not care or know much about the University of Southern California or University of South Carolina.
However, if an individual has general knowledge about American universities, that person is more likely (but not guaranteed) to associate USC to Southern Cal than they are to South Carolina.
"USC" is not owned by Southern Cal, and I'm sure many Americans do associate USC to S. Carolina. But the point being made on this thread is that Southern Cal is more commonly accepted as the USC within the American university system.
If you were to take a poll amongst Americans with general university knowledge from all regions of the country, I would wager the results would be somewhere around 80% Southern Cal and 20% S. Carolina.
You are absolutely right. Many (if not most) Americans do not care or know much about the University of Southern California or University of South Carolina.
However, if an individual has general knowledge about American universities, that person is more likely (but not guaranteed) to associate USC to Southern Cal than they are to South Carolina.
"USC" is not owned by Southern Cal, and I'm sure many Americans do associate USC to S. Carolina. But the point being made on this thread is that Southern Cal is more commonly accepted as the USC within the American university system.
If you were to take a poll amongst Americans with general university knowledge from all regions of the country, I would wager the results would be somewhere around 80% Southern Cal and 20% S. Carolina.
I would think a majority or plurality would associate USC with either one.
It is difficult to think of a situation in which one of these universities is discussed and the context doesn't make it clear which one is being discussed given they are opposite sides of the country and play sports in difference conferences.
If they did a poll, I'd be interested in seeing them also break it out by political party. I predict a lot more Democrats would think Southern Cal 'owns' USC than Republicans.
How do you know this if you don't know most Americans?
You are proving my point that people who gush over Southern Cal academics and athletics think it is the 'real' USC. But I don't see any reason to believe most Americans care about Southern Cal academics or athletics.
didnt usc have 3 heisman trophy winners 3 years in a row ?
and they won the bcs several years.
Last edited by stanley-88888888; 07-27-2018 at 05:27 PM..
Ok, I'm willing to change my mind if you show me some polling on this topic. I think a majority or plurality of Americans would think of both universities if the context is not clear. A majority of Americans did not attend either university and SC is closer to a majority of Americans.
If the context is 'USC is an elite university academically' or 'USC's football program is a blueblood' then I would assume Southern Cal is being discussed. But this is only possible b/c I'm aware of Us News college rankings and I follow college football.
>10% of the US population lives right in California.
Apparently Southern Cal doesn't like it when sports people use that expression, partly because it makes it seem like it is a southern branch campus of Cal. They say it is also like referring to Uni of North Carolina as North Car.
THe U of SC on their website recommends using South Carolina as abbreviation after first using the full name. I'm not a big fan of initial abbreviations so I can go with that.
Sometimes during games, the tv networks have SC labeled as SCAR or S. Carolina.
It would be interesting to do a poll and see how many people know Southern Cal is not a branch of the University of California. And then find out how many of those people think Southern Cal owns the USC abbreviation.
I only recently discovered Southern Cal is private and I had never heard anybody talk up its academics off this forum outside of it being ranked high in the popular rankings.
Last edited by ClemVegas; 07-27-2018 at 06:33 PM..
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