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Old 10-31-2018, 12:05 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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Originally Posted by MrJester View Post
1. Liberal/secular folks automatically dismiss The South (and parts of the Midwest) as "hick country."
2. Any city with killer humidity (Houston, Orlando, New Orleans) automatically loses to any city with dry heat (El Paso, Sacramento, Spokane, Boise).
3. A city in the dry, barren desert that's close to mountains (think Las Vegas) will win over a city with lush forests, bayous, and white-sand beaches with warm, crystal-clear water, simply because the latter city is utterly flat (Miami or Tampa).
4. Any city located on the West Coast (especially California) gets bonus points just for being in California/the West Coast. Fresno (one of the poorer and hot, dry cities in California) would probably win over Austin (considered by many the most hipster city in The South) by that measure.
5. Out of all the states, people from California are the least likely to have traveled (extensively) outside the state, to other regions of the U.S. I've met people who have never even been outside of California. Those who have often have never been East of the Rockies. Even Texans travel more outside their state.
6. Because of their isolation, Californians have a certain snobbery and think that it's better to be dead in California than alive anywhere else. They think Houston is in Texas so Houston is in the desert or that Austin is in Texas so Austin must be a staid, boring, conservative, religious cow town.
7. Cold weather is actually not bad. Most people prefer blizzards to Florida humidity. Most people prefer ice and subzero temps to the bland, year-round balminess of Hawaii or Southern California.

Don't get me wrong, I love California. I think Irvine, especially, is one of the three greatest places on this world (along with Singapore and Houston). But I just find that so many Californians have never extensively traveled outside of California.

Any other trends you want to add? How true do the above points hold?
I think California's a wonderful state lmao I think you should come for a visit. Atleast Texas has a low cost of living so it's not a runaway there are nice places in Texas, and I don't think people here are less traveled than anywhere else, there's just a lot more to experience in a short distance. I'm not from California, but i've came to love it like so many have.

 
Old 10-31-2018, 12:18 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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I think California's a wonderful state lmao I think you should come for a visit. Atleast Texas has a low cost of living so it's not a runaway there are nice places in Texas, and I don't think people here are less traveled than anywhere else, there's just a lot more to experience in a short distance. I'm not from California, but i've came to love it like so many have.
He does live here, that’s what’s so weird about all those posts and threads bashing it, or hoping people will with ones like this, or Dallas vs LA for skiing. If he just spent half the time researching a move out of state that he does to this forum he’d be a much happier person. What’s funny is he’ll go off and say how hot and miserable it is once you get off the coast, but then in another thread say how cold it on the coast and prefers it inland.
 
Old 10-31-2018, 01:07 PM
 
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Any other trends you want to add? How true do the above points hold?
1. Yes.
2. Yes. Wouldn't say this is only on CD though.
3. I've seen it go both ways so no, don't really see it.
4. West Coast is the Best Coast thinking is definitely here. Fresno would lose however, even here.
5. No clue.
6. No idea. CA folks are a lot of things.
7. Sounds a lot like #2, but yeah.

I'd add:

1. CD folks chiming in based on their fantasies of a place AND in fact never even having been to one or more of the cities in question.

2. Massive exaggeration when it comes to weather & crime. Also people here seem to like it hotter & sunnier than I typically think of as comfortable weather.

3. Old & outdated opinions on cities they knew 10+ years ago. Or outright bias against certain cities & lesser-known cities automatically losing.

4. The super liberal wanting to know if they'd fit in with the super conservative city & vice versa.

5. People who never bother to even visit a city before moving there, but will spend months on a post here. Then when they get to their new city they suddenly hate it.

6. Not understanding that just because something looks good/bad on paper it MUST be that way in real life.

7. Californians moving somewhere & being upset that they got push back for wanting to make their new place just like the old place they left (often because they hated it now for some reason).

8. Whatever city is the poster's favorite having the best food.

9. Whichever city is disliked having the worst drivers anywhere.

10. Posting your opinion about an aspect of a city you disliked being met with blind rage from the locals.

11. Cities that can't be summed up immediately with a catchy phrase or iconic structure/way of life tending to lose &/or be looked down upon.

Edit: Just as a side note when people talk city vs. city they often fail to mention if they are interested in the city core, the close neighborhoods, the burbs, or some combination of all of them. Makes it hard to provide useful information & can swing a vs. wildly.

Edit II: Speaking of CA folks. I have a friend who travels a good bit & they call everywhere ghetto or okay that doesn't fit their perfect sunny weather, yet at the same time ******* about Southern Cali people being shallow & materialistic. Then whenever they talk about the handful of cities they'd want to move to they're all cities that are turning into CA versions of what they disliked in the first place. Maybe too much sun does something to your brain!
 
Old 10-31-2018, 05:40 PM
 
Location: Debatable
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Originally Posted by MrJester View Post
1. Liberal/secular folks automatically dismiss The South (and parts of the Midwest) as "hick country."
2. Any city with killer humidity (Houston, Orlando, New Orleans) automatically loses to any city with dry heat (El Paso, Sacramento, Spokane, Boise).
3. A city in the dry, barren desert that's close to mountains (think Las Vegas) will win over a city with lush forests, bayous, and white-sand beaches with warm, crystal-clear water, simply because the latter city is utterly flat (Miami or Tampa).
4. Any city located on the West Coast (especially California) gets bonus points just for being in California/the West Coast. Fresno (one of the poorer and hot, dry cities in California) would probably win over Austin (considered by many the most hipster city in The South) by that measure.
5. Out of all the states, people from California are the least likely to have traveled (extensively) outside the state, to other regions of the U.S. I've met people who have never even been outside of California. Those who have often have never been East of the Rockies. Even Texans travel more outside their state.
6. Because of their isolation, Californians have a certain snobbery and think that it's better to be dead in California than alive anywhere else. They think Houston is in Texas so Houston is in the desert or that Austin is in Texas so Austin must be a staid, boring, conservative, religious cow town.
7. Cold weather is actually not bad. Most people prefer blizzards to Florida humidity. Most people prefer ice and subzero temps to the bland, year-round balminess of Hawaii or Southern California.

Don't get me wrong, I love California. I think Irvine, especially, is one of the three greatest places on this world (along with Singapore and Houston). But I just find that so many Californians have never extensively traveled outside of California.

Any other trends you want to add? How true do the above points hold?
Someone get this fellow a back massage and chocolate shake.
 
Old 11-01-2018, 12:22 AM
 
Location: SoCal
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1. Yes.
2. Yes. Wouldn't say this is only on CD though.
3. I've seen it go both ways so no, don't really see it.
4. West Coast is the Best Coast thinking is definitely here. Fresno would lose however, even here.
5. No clue.
6. No idea. CA folks are a lot of things.
7. Sounds a lot like #2, but yeah.

I'd add:

1. CD folks chiming in based on their fantasies of a place AND in fact never even having been to one or more of the cities in question.

2. Massive exaggeration when it comes to weather & crime. Also people here seem to like it hotter & sunnier than I typically think of as comfortable weather.

3. Old & outdated opinions on cities they knew 10+ years ago. Or outright bias against certain cities & lesser-known cities automatically losing.

4. The super liberal wanting to know if they'd fit in with the super conservative city & vice versa.

5. People who never bother to even visit a city before moving there, but will spend months on a post here. Then when they get to their new city they suddenly hate it.

6. Not understanding that just because something looks good/bad on paper it MUST be that way in real life.

7. Californians moving somewhere & being upset that they got push back for wanting to make their new place just like the old place they left (often because they hated it now for some reason).

8. Whatever city is the poster's favorite having the best food.

9. Whichever city is disliked having the worst drivers anywhere.

10. Posting your opinion about an aspect of a city you disliked being met with blind rage from the locals.

11. Cities that can't be summed up immediately with a catchy phrase or iconic structure/way of life tending to lose &/or be looked down upon.

Edit: Just as a side note when people talk city vs. city they often fail to mention if they are interested in the city core, the close neighborhoods, the burbs, or some combination of all of them. Makes it hard to provide useful information & can swing a vs. wildly.

Edit II: Speaking of CA folks. I have a friend who travels a good bit & they call everywhere ghetto or okay that doesn't fit their perfect sunny weather, yet at the same time ******* about Southern Cali people being shallow & materialistic. Then whenever they talk about the handful of cities they'd want to move to they're all cities that are turning into CA versions of what they disliked in the first place. Maybe too much sun does something to your brain!
I will agree that sun does do something to the brain we are species that depend on the sun just like plants. For me the sun makes me very happy, can't speak for everyone though. I've never cared too much for the sun until moving to California though, things can be so beautiful during the day. I feel like i'm missing out in the dark, and the gloomy days. Hence why I didn't move to NorCal
 
Old 11-01-2018, 08:42 AM
 
Location: Washington Park, Denver
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The Fox News Nationalist Conservative (FN’ NatC) crowd loves to bash California, Portland, and Seattle. If you believe what they write about these cities, they are nothing but decaying cesspools where innocent people are regularly assaulted by roving gangs of socialists.

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Old 11-01-2018, 08:50 AM
 
Location: St Simons Island, GA
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2. While for some strange reason you do, most people don't like oppressive humidity. I also don't see Spokane routinely beating the likes of New Orleans and Houston. And I think Orlando is beating Las Vegas and the Inland Empire of Southern California in a thread as we speak.
If most people don't like humidity, how is it possible that the 'humid' cities are winning the polls?

Just sayin'.
 
Old 11-01-2018, 09:49 AM
 
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OP made quite an insecure post, but to his credit, he does hit upon some good points. There's without a doubt a bad combination of projection bias and genetic attacking people on this forum (and across the internet in general) tend to get into.
 
Old 11-01-2018, 11:09 AM
 
Location: Zurich, Switzerland/ Piedmont, CA
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I will agree that sun does do something to the brain we are species that depend on the sun just like plants. For me the sun makes me very happy, can't speak for everyone though. I've never cared too much for the sun until moving to California though, things can be so beautiful during the day. I feel like i'm missing out in the dark, and the gloomy days. Hence why I didn't move to NorCal
The only time of year that Id characterize SoCal as sunnier than NorCal is winter...thats legitimately the case.

But other than that, Sac and Fresno and Redding are the sunniest cities in the state and SF is only 2% less sunny than SD.
https://www.nerdwallet.com/blog/sunniest-cities/
 
Old 11-01-2018, 11:52 AM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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If most people don't like humidity, how is it possible that the 'humid' cities are winning the polls?

Just sayin'.
Do I really need to spell it out for you?

First, they are city comparisons, not weather comparisons. Do a San Diego weather vs any humid city weather poll and get back to me with the results. People put up with, and/or make the most with less than ideal weather conditions for all sorts of reasons. For many weather isn’t that important. Also many of the city comparisons aren’t really amongst equal cities. It goes both ways, people will try to take interior California cities and put them against “lesser” cities in their mind looking for a easy win too.

Second, people are tremendous homers on this site. People would pick a bar of silver in their home city over a bar of gold in another. Especially if it’s in a place they don’t like or know.

Lastly many people don’t know because they haven’t experienced anything different. To this point while in school in Michigan when we would go to Florida for spring break and everyone thought it was the greatest. None of these people had ever been to a beach in Southern California in their life, how would they know what the weather is like. When I couple of friends who came out for my wedding experienced it for their first time their minds were blown. They had idea what warm weather was like without high humidity or desert like conditions, and said we now get why you went on and on about the weather.
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