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Old 11-13-2018, 05:29 PM
 
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Well said.

Brookline, Cambridge, Somerville (up and up) all come to mind in MA. Lincoln Park School district in Chicago is excellent.. North of North and South of Fullerton I believe is the K-12 area.
The public schools in Lincoln Park are part of the Chicago Public Schools.
https://www.zillow.com/lincoln-park-chicago-il/schools/

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They're not.

Fairfax County in VA is considered one of the best public school systems in the country and it's pretty diverse. It's also home to Thomas Jefferson which is considered the best in the nation.

"Demographically, 38.7 percent of FCPS students are White, 25.8 percent are Hispanic, 19.6 are Asian, 10.1 percent are Black, 5.4 percent are two or more races, 0.3 are American Indian and 0.1 percent are Native Hawaiian (source: 2017 Fall Membership by Subgroup as reported in the Virginia Department of Education School Quality Profile)"

https://www.fcps.edu/about-fcps
There are no national high school rankings.
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Old 11-13-2018, 06:48 PM
 
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There are no national high school rankings.
Oh, but there are. Growing in the DC suburbs I knew we had great schools in both Montgomery and Fairfax county and we knew which high school ranked where and that Thomas Jefferson and Blair were the best in the area. Times have changed so I'm sure my rankings might be off by a few but we were well aware that Mclean high school ranked higher then West Spring high school did etc.

Google high school rankings and I'm sure a bunch will come up.
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Old 11-13-2018, 07:08 PM
 
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How about you supporting your claim?
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Old 11-13-2018, 07:12 PM
 
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How about you supporting your claim?
I mean, you could just google it... US News which even universities rely on has a high school ranking system that gets released every year.

https://www.usnews.com/education/bes...ional-rankings
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Old 11-13-2018, 08:02 PM
 
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I mean, you could just google it... US News which even universities rely on has a high school ranking system that gets released every year.

https://www.usnews.com/education/bes...ional-rankings
US News has some funky criteria. Even so, I see that Thomas Jefferson HS is #10 by their methodology.
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Old 11-13-2018, 08:14 PM
 
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US News has some funky criteria. Even so, I see that Thomas Jefferson HS is #10 by their methodology.
and as I stated above....

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Oh, but there are. Growing in the DC suburbs I knew we had great schools in both Montgomery and Fairfax county and we knew which high school ranked where and that Thomas Jefferson and Blair were the best in the area. Times have changed so I'm sure my rankings might be off by a few but we were well aware that Mclean high school ranked higher then West Spring high school did etc.

Google high school rankings and I'm sure a bunch will come up.
but at least now you know that high schools are actually ranked instead of just flat out denying it.
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Old 11-13-2018, 10:28 PM
 
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and as I stated above....



but at least now you know that high schools are actually ranked instead of just flat out denying it.
I was familiar with US News' rankings. However, they basically look at number of IB/AP tests taken. That's not all that makes a good high school. Note that most of their top schools are charter/magnet schools.
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Old 11-13-2018, 10:29 PM
 
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I was familiar with US News' rankings. However, they basically look at number of IB/AP tests taken. That's not all that makes a good high school.
you're original post that I replied to was the below
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There are no national high school rankings.
so what does criteria have anything to do with it... unless this is your attempt at backtracking somehow
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Old 11-13-2018, 10:32 PM
 
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You're right. I should have been more specific.
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Old 11-13-2018, 11:03 PM
 
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My neighborhood zone school actually matches this description. It has a middle of the road great schools scores, but the affluent kids outperform the higher ranked suburban districts, and the poor kids outperform the poor kids at other city schools.

I agree that great schools is not a good yardstick, but schools ranked three or below 10 to actually be bad schools, and schools ranked nine or 10 tend to be good schools. For anything in-between, you absolutely have to know the context for the scores to be meaningful.
Probably true, but I have data that shows that a great schools 5 school is actually higher performing than a 10 in many cases once you control for SES. One could easily argue that a school that can outperform the top school in the district while having half of the students disadvantaged is a better school than the one full of wealthy kids.
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