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Old 01-17-2019, 10:25 PM
 
Location: California x North Carolina (soon)...
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Does anyone know of per capita rates are calculated based of census estimates or census counts?
FBI counts populations of their own accord, I assume they have their own counting force because the populations rarely, line up with the Census estimates for the previous year. Look:

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s...ble-8.xls/view

The Census estimates for New York cities in 2017 were as follows: New York (8,622,698); Buffalo (258,612); Rochester (208,046); Albany (98,251)...

However, when looking at the FBI's population figures for 2017, here's what they published: New York (8,616,333); Buffalo (256,169); Rochester (208,591); Albany (98,174)...

You can do this for any city you're interested in. Most FBI numbers aren't far off the Census estimates, but it's clear the FBI doesn't use the Census guys to get their population numbers. According to the FBI, there were over 6,000 fewer people in New York, and over 2,000 fewer people in Buffalo, in 2017, than what the Census says...

So to answer your question, rates are dependent upon which source you choose. When I'm posting, im going off the most recent Census estimates available; however, when FBI UCR is published every September/October, and I post those numbers, I use the FBI stats. And I always highlight when I'm using the FBI, as I did on Page 2 of this thread---the FBI uses their own numbers when they publish reports, and it's been like that for as long as I can remember (the discrepancy between the Census and the FBI), and I've been analyzing as an amateur criminologist (lol) for almost 15 years now...
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Old 01-18-2019, 12:48 AM
 
Location: Chicago metro
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I'm looking at Illinois 2017, and what is up with Harvey in not publishing its crime reports? This is the second consecutive year there is not a FBI crime report for the city.
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Old 01-18-2019, 09:49 AM
 
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I'm looking at Illinois 2017, and what is up with Harvey in not publishing its crime reports? This is the second consecutive year there is not a FBI crime report for the city.
They don't want to.
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Old 01-18-2019, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Boston
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2 shot in Boston an hour ago, one is dead. Boston is at 4
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Old 01-18-2019, 06:24 PM
 
Location: Chicago metro
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They don't want to.
It just look like shady business when they don't, given the many problems the community has already. Even East St. Louis released both its 2016 and 2017, regardless of how ugly the crime statistics make the city appear.
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Old 01-18-2019, 11:44 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn the best borough in NYC!
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NYC is at 16
Philly 9
Baltimore 14
Chicago 13
LA 10
Memphis 9
Charlotte, NC 6
Durham, NC 6
Oakland, CA 5
San Francisco 3
San Jose 3
Miami 2
Good start for Chicago? Figured by now they’d already be higher than NYC? Even tho it’s still less than a month of data.
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Old 01-19-2019, 07:28 AM
 
Location: Northeast states
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NYC correction 14*
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Old 01-19-2019, 10:43 AM
 
Location: Upper West Side, Manhattan, NYC
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Good start for Chicago? Figured by now they’d already be higher than NYC? Even tho it’s still less than a month of data.
It's just getting back to how things were before 2016 - which has been the trend since late 3Q or early 4Q of 2017 there. Officially there were 11 homicides in the city through 1/13 - there were 10 in 2015 through the same period. Doesn't mean much since it's only 2 weeks into the year, but you know 2018 finished not a huge amount more than 2015. It's been steadily coming back to what was normal before 2016.

NYC was at 9 through the same time period (1/1 - 1/13).
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Old 01-19-2019, 12:37 PM
 
Location: Tupelo, Ms
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Jackson, MS - 11
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Old 01-19-2019, 02:34 PM
 
Location: NYC, VA, JP
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Jackson, MS - 11
What in the world is going on in Jackson???
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