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Old 01-08-2019, 05:44 PM
 
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Richmond is definitely the cultural capital of Virginia. It leads the commonwealth in visual and performing arts, film, cuisine and fashion. It’s also the political capital (of the state, of course NOVA is the political capital of the country) with lobiests and not for profits representing all of virginia’s intersts located here.

Tidewater is second. Williamsburg/Jamestown and Virginia Beach are probably what most people think of when they think of Virginia.

Charlottesville is the literary capital.

Northern Virginia is the brains and economic engine of the commonwealth.
I'm pretty sure that's Washington DC.
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Old 01-08-2019, 05:51 PM
 
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Old 01-09-2019, 12:04 AM
 
Location: The High Desert
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Is it? The reputation of Saint Louis I've heard is a dying city that killed itself in the 60s by destroying all of its historic stock while electing corrupt politicians.

The reputation of Kansas City has always been an underrated city that is way funner than people expect.
The first statement is ridiculously false. Apparently you have no idea and have not experienced Saint Louis. I do think that KC is underrated but most residents could care less because they know what the have and enjoy it. As cities go, Saint Louis faces east while Kansas City faces west and they tend to compliment each other culturally. They are close enough that there is some rivalry but also residents can enjoy the culture and resources of both cities.
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Old 01-09-2019, 05:18 AM
 
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I'm pretty sure that's Washington DC.
Most DC politicians live in Virginia. The pundants, lobbyists and journalists that shape policy live in NoVa. The organizations that effect change are located in Virginia...DC is just where they go to work
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Old 01-09-2019, 06:15 AM
 
Location: Brew City
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I feel like Madison could take the shine off Milwaukee. Especially moving forward. It's definitely not the best answer for this question but I feel it should be considered.
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Old 01-09-2019, 08:11 AM
 
Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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I think Wisconsin. Madison is more impactful than Milwaukee culturally/politically/etc. State government, flagship university, best job growth (and has been for some time).
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Old 01-09-2019, 10:29 AM
 
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Most DC politicians live in Virginia. The pundants, lobbyists and journalists that shape policy live in NoVa. The organizations that effect change are located in Virginia...DC is just where they go to work
And that's why DC itself is the capital, not NoVa.
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Old 01-09-2019, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Germantown, Philadelphia
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The first statement is ridiculously false. Apparently you have no idea and have not experienced Saint Louis. I do think that KC is underrated but most residents could care less because they know what the have and enjoy it. As cities go, Saint Louis faces east while Kansas City faces west and they tend to compliment each other culturally. They are close enough that there is some rivalry but also residents can enjoy the culture and resources of both cities.
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Something I've said about the two cities for years: St. Louis is the last great city of the East and Kansas City the first great city of the West.

The rivalry resembles the one between Philadelphia and Pittsburgh where I live now. However, it does strike me, as it did growing up, that St. Louis does a lot more looking nervously over its shoulder at Kansas City than Philadelphia does with Pittsburgh while Kansas City boosters have tended to gloat over the city's relative good fortune of late, even while the Missourians especially lament the economic "border war."

But the two cities work together when either doing so benefits both or when pushing for something one city wants won't necessarily harm the other's fortunes. The optional later closing hours for bars in "convention trade zones," something the Kansas Citians wanted more than the St. Louisans did because of the relative importance of convention business to the former city's economy, is a good example.
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Old 01-09-2019, 01:58 PM
 
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Something I've said about the two cities for years: St. Louis is the last great city of the East and Kansas City the first great city of the West.
It really is interesting how Missouri has a bit of north, south, east, and west within its borders.
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Old 01-09-2019, 03:24 PM
 
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Something I've said about the two cities for years: St. Louis is the last great city of the East and Kansas City the first great city of the West.

The rivalry resembles the one between Philadelphia and Pittsburgh where I live now. However, it does strike me, as it did growing up, that St. Louis does a lot more looking nervously over its shoulder at Kansas City than Philadelphia does with Pittsburgh while Kansas City boosters have tended to gloat over the city's relative good fortune of late, even while the Missourians especially lament the economic "border war."

But the two cities work together when either doing so benefits both or when pushing for something one city wants won't necessarily harm the other's fortunes. The optional later closing hours for bars in "convention trade zones," something the Kansas Citians wanted more than the St. Louisans did because of the relative importance of convention business to the former city's economy, is a good example.
I think that St Louisians think of KC more than Philly does Pittsburgh because KC is a lot closer to St Louis in terms of size and importance than Pitt is to Philly.
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