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Old 02-06-2019, 06:45 PM
 
Location: Upper West Side, Manhattan, NYC
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The BEA has data for personal income by metro area. They define "Personal Income" as:

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Income that people get from wages and salaries, Social Security and other government benefits, dividends and interest, business ownership, and other sources. These statistics can offer clues to Americans' financial health and future consumer spending.
https://www.bea.gov/data/income-saving/personal-income

Here is various data on that for metro areas with at least 500,000 people. I have data on over 100 MSAs, so if you don't see an MSA in here anywhere, then don't be afraid to ask for the data and ranking:

2017 Total Personal Income, by MSA
1. NYC MSA: $1,443,163.1 million
2. Los Angeles MSA: $802,394.1 million
3. Chicago MSA: $555,922.4 million
4. DC MSA: $432,558 million
5. San Francisco MSA: $432,359.9 million
6. Dallas MSA: $392,145.5 million
7. Philadelphia MSA: $377,223.1 million
8. Houston MSA: $363,677.1 million
9. Boston MSA: $358,021.1 million
10. Miami MSA: $330,928.7 million
11. Atlanta MSA: $292,220.8 million
12. Seattle MSA: $267,653.5 million
13. Detroit MSA: $219,371.8 million
14. Minneapolis MSA: $215,086.5 million
15. Phoenix MSA: $208,895.9 million
16. San Diego MSA: $193,296.4 million
17. San Jose MSA: $193,098.2 million
18. Riverside, CA MSA: $178,882.6 million
19. Denver MSA: $172,311.4 million
20. Baltimore MSA: $167,920.9 million
21. St. Louis MSA: $147,100 million
22. Tampa MSA: $139,318.6 million
23. Portland MSA: $131,861.4 million
24. Charlotte MSA: $125,653.5 million
25. Pittsburgh MSA: $125,648.5 million
26. Sacramento MSA: $125,039.1 million
27. Austin MSA: $115,982.3 million
28. Dayton MSA: $112,301.9 million
29. San Antonio MSA: $110,855 million
30. Kansas City MSA: $108,373.7 million
31. Cleveland MSA: $106,554.8 million
32. Nashville MSA: $106,463.8 million
33. Indianapolis MSA: $106,415.3 million
34. Bridgeport, CT MSA: $104,589.8 million
35. Orlando MSA: $104,106.8 million
36. Columbus, OH MSA: $103,195.2 million
37. Las Vegas MSA: $97,457.3 million
38. Milwaukee MSA: $85,031.7 million
39. Providence MSA: $84,737 million
40. Virginia Beach MSA: $83,677.7 million

2017 Per Capita Personal Income, by MSA
1. Bridgeport, CT MSA: $110,104
2. San Jose MSA: $96,623
3. San Francisco MSA: $91,459
4. Boston MSA: $74,024
5. NYC MSA: $71,019
6. DC MSA: $69,581
7. Seattle MSA: $69,214
8. Philadelphia MSA: $61,879
9. Hartford, CT MSA: $61,353
10. Santa Rosa, CA MSA: $60,286
11. Los Angeles MSA: $60,087
12. Baltimore MSA: $59,797
13. Minneapolis MSA: $59,736
14. Denver MSA: $59,660
15. Fayetteville, AR MSA: $59,425
16. Oxnard, CA MSA: $59,178
17. Chicago MSA: $58,315
18. San Diego MSA: $57,913
19. Honolulu MSA: $56,728
20. Madison, WI MSA: $56,289
21. Nashville MSA: $55,944
22. Albany, NY MSA: $55,848
23. Austin MSA: $54,817
24. Omaha MSA: $54,615
25. Portland, ME MSA: $54,603
26. Richmond, VA MSA: $54,597
27. New Haven, CT MSA: $54,543
28. North Port, FL MSA: $54,028
29. Milwaukee MSA: $53,946
30. Pittsburgh MSA: $53,849
31. Sacramento MSA: $53,783
32. Portland MSA: $53,751
33. Worcester, MA MSA: $53,738
34. Miami MSA: $53,732
35. Dallas MSA: $52,995
36. Houston MSA: $52,765
37. Indianapolis MSA: $52,457
38. Raleigh, NC MSA: $52,444
39. St. Louis MSA: $52,398
40. Des Moines MSA: $52,300

Change in Per Capita Personal Income 2010 to 2017, by MSA
1. San Jose MSA: +$36,100
2. San Francisco MSA: +$30,265
3. Fayetteville, AR MSA: +$21,717
4. Seattle MSA: +$20,587
5. Santa Rosa, CA MSA: +$17,340
6. NYC MSA: +$16,697
7. Denver MSA: +$16,132
8. Boston MSA: +$15,907
9. Los Angeles MSA: +$15,068
10. Nashville MSA: +$14,219
11. Chicago MSA: +$14,119
12. Austin MSA: +$14,048
13. Portland MSA: +$13,897
14. San Diego MSA: +$13,800
15. Philadelphia MSA: +$13,783
16. Minneapolis MSA: +$13,704
17. Oxnard, CA MSA: +$13,293
18. Detroit MSA: +$12,968
19. Madison, WI MSA: +$12,866
20. Sacramento MSA: +$12,667
21. Salt Lake City MSA: +$12,555
22. North Port, FL MSA: +$12,260
23. Grand Rapids, MI MSA: +$12,179
24. Cleveland MSA: +$12,033
25. Dallas MSA: +$11,990
26. Richmond, VA MSA: +$11,911
27. Provo, UT MSA: +$11,773
28. Honolulu MSA: +$11,400
29. Charleston, SC MSA: +$11,399
30. Portland, ME MSA: +$11,389
31. Albany, NY MSA: +$11,302
32. Atlanta MSA: +$11,277
33. Lancaster, PA MSA: +$11,248
34. DC MSA: +$11,236
35. Indianapolis MSA: +$11,219
36. Baltimore MSA: +$11,216
37. Dayton MSA: +$11,061
38. Pittsburgh MSA: +$11,037
39. Columbus, OH MSA: +$11,024
40. Charlotte MSA: +$11,011
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Old 02-06-2019, 06:56 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Those numbers for Los Angeles are low considering how expensive it is to live there.
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Old 02-06-2019, 07:18 PM
 
Location: Upper West Side, Manhattan, NYC
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Those numbers for Los Angeles are low considering how expensive it is to live there.
Yep. Actually the BEA also has something called Real Personal Income, which basically takes into account price parities (i.e. cost of living) and also chains it to 2012 dollars. Unfortunately the data only goes until 2016, and not 2017, but for example..

2016 Real Personal Income per capita:
Bridgeport, CT MSA: $85,817
San Jose MSA: $69,016
San Francisco MSA: $66,920
Boston MSA: $61,917
Seattle MSA: $57,630
Nashville MSA: $54,788
Washington DC MSA: $54,683
Minneapolis MSA: $54,478
Philadelphia MSA: $54,398
St. Louis MSA: $53,820
Cincinnati MSA: $53,680
Cleveland MSA: $53,274
NYC MSA: $53,197
Pittsburgh MSA: $52,856
Milwaukee MSA: $52,762
Chicago MSA: $52,345
Denver MSA: $51,662
Baltimore MSA: $51,979
Austin MSA: $51,110
Columbus, OH MSA: $49,999
Dallas MSA: $49,923
Denver MSA: $49,479
Portland MSA: $48,929
Louisville MSA: $48,779
Houston MSA: $48,692
New Orleans MSA: $48,618
Atlanta MSA: $48,007
Los Angeles MSA: $47,793
San Diego MSA: $46,589
Memphis MSA: 46,344
Miami MSA: $46,295
Honolulu MSA: $42,455
Las Vegas MSA: $42,455
Phoenix MSA: $42,218

etc. In this list of 33 MSAs, Los Angeles is 7th lowest accounting for price parity (i.e. cost of living). San Diego is even lower. Outside of the Bay Area and Seattle, the west coast doesn't fare too strongly in this.
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Old 02-06-2019, 07:58 PM
 
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Are there numbers available based on per worker instead of per capita?
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Old 02-06-2019, 08:01 PM
 
Location: Upper West Side, Manhattan, NYC
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Are there numbers available based on per worker instead of per capita?
The only data available like this is "per capita." Now, whether that's actually per worker, per person over a certain age, or per person in general I don't know. I have some questions about that too - because the number differs so much from the US Census - but haven't been able to find the answer
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Old 02-07-2019, 08:18 AM
 
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San Francisco and Boston, both 48 square miles, inflates their per capita stats. Shocker.
This is by metropolitan area, not city proper..
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Old 02-09-2019, 02:27 AM
 
Location: The canyon (with my pistols and knife)
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Are there numbers available based on per worker instead of per capita?

Per worker you'd have to do yourself. Just look up the total nonfarm jobs in each MSA, and divide each MSA's total personal income by it.
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Old 02-09-2019, 03:37 AM
 
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I goofed. I divided the 2017 total personal income for each MSA by the number of non-farm jobs in each MSA in July 2018, so the numbers are slightly off, and I'm too lazy right now to go back and divide them by the number of non-farm jobs in July 2017. Regardless, the numbers aren't too far off. Here are the results I got:


Personal income per non-farm job by MSA (2017-2018)

$251,599.23 - Bridgeport
$177,589.71 - San Francisco/Oakland
$170,250.57 - San Jose
$146,701.68 - New York
$140,782.52 - Providence
$132,148.77 - Los Angeles
$131,315.49 - San Diego
$128,745.16 - Washington DC
$128,518.92 - Seattle
$127,712.06 - Philadelphia

$127,282.81 - Boston
$127,072.26 - Sacramento
$125,518.19 - Miami
$120,760.55 - Riverside/San Bernardino
$118,179.25 - Baltimore
$116,724.04 - Houston
$116,365.05 - Chicago
$113,519.60 - Denver
$109,619.59 - Portland
$109,458.57 - Austin

$108,390.63 - Detroit
$107,354.84 - Nashville
$106,309.17 - St. Louis
$105,859.38 - Dallas/Fort Worth
$105,631.36 - Pittsburgh
$105,515.90 - San Antonio
$105,429.39 - Minneapolis/St. Paul
$105,247.90 - Atlanta
$105,202.04 - Virginia Beach/Norfolk
$104,737.43 - Charlotte

$104,202.39 - Tampa
$101,965.10 - Phoenix
$100,701.13 - Cincinnati
$99,129.30 - Indianapolis
$98,602.22 - Kansas City
$97,640.25 - Cleveland
$96,626.93 - Milwaukee
$96,626.31 - Las Vegas
$93,686.06 - Columbus
$80,765.55 - Orlando
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Old 02-09-2019, 10:52 AM
 
Location: The City
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I would have expected Boston to be higher on the above metric
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Old 02-09-2019, 10:53 AM
 
Location: The City
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Philadelphia does very well here.


relative to its affordability to other more expensive metros and the amenities it does quite well on many income metrics as a metro
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