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Just curious, if you don't know anything about Birmingham, why would you assume it lacks natural beauty? Or infrastructure? Holy smokes. I have a client in New Orleans. The airport is like that of a third-world country. The only thing missing are cookfires in the hallways and feral cattle wandering the halls. And New Orleans itself always seems to be teetering on the edge of chaos. I mean desuetude is still desuetude, no matter how much charm it has. God help you if you need to get any business done in the six weeks leading up to Lent.
This is kind of why I hate the City vs City forum on CD. Because people pop off about places they've never visited, or whose visits were little more than drive-bys on the interstate.
I live in Denver now, so I'm comparing my transition from Baton Rouge/New Orleans versus that of where I am now. No harm meant. The hills around Birmingham are nice but they aren't huge mountains or pretty beaches. Birmingham might be an all around more liveable city but seems that it's greatest assets are its suburbs. I put more weight into culture, amenities, etc than I do suburbs or natural beauty. Now if Birmingham was in Asheville's location, completely different story.
No need to go on a tangent. This is why I hate this forum too.
According to Cushman & Wakefield Commercial advisors
“Our team currently estimates more than $14.1 BB investment in retail, office, industrial, multifamily, mixed use, and other projects in the Memphis area. The Archived Project Summary below tracks projects than have been complete for more than a year from 2014. Currently we are tracking more than 296 projects based on development status: proposed, under construction, or complete.”
A large portion of downtown-midtown projects combined are at least 7Billion +
So if things continue to trend with Memphis’s economy, I don’t see why it shouldn’t have a strong case for a brighter outlook.
Haven't been to New Orleans but have been to the other two and lived in Memphis. As I always say, I don't have to go to Baghdad to know I don't wanna live there, so I have no issue with someone saying they wouldn't live somewhere they haven't been. I can't offer on the ground analysis, but I wouldn't live in New Orleans unless there was a lot (I mean a TON) of money involved...
Don't worry, I couldn't live in Memphis again nor in Birmingham. I'm more familiar with Memphis, so I favor Birmingham more. I think each of these cities has their charms and the future trajectories for all three is about equal. Is there three more similar cities of this size in the South? Very similar social atmospheres and cross cultural similarities...
Haven't been to New Orleans but have been to the other two and lived in Memphis. As I always say, I don't have to go to Baghdad to know I don't wanna live there, so I have no issue with someone saying they wouldn't live somewhere they haven't been. I can't offer on the ground analysis, but I wouldn't live in New Orleans unless there was a lot (I mean a TON) of money involved...
Don't worry, I couldn't live in Memphis again nor in Birmingham. I'm more familiar with Memphis, so I favor Birmingham more. I think each of these cities has their charms and the future trajectories for all three is about equal. Is there three more similar cities of this size in the South? Very similar social atmospheres and cross cultural similarities...
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Actually I think New Orleans is an outlier here. I agree that you don't have to have visited a place to know you wouldn't want to live there but I do think you had to have some type of actual firsthand interaction with a city to say that it has a similar social atmosphere as other cities.
According to Cushman & Wakefield Commercial advisors
“Our team currently estimates more than $14.1 BB investment in retail, office, industrial, multifamily, mixed use, and other projects in the Memphis area. The Archived Project Summary below tracks projects than have been complete for more than a year from 2014. Currently we are tracking more than 296 projects based on development status: proposed, under construction, or complete.”
A large portion of downtown-midtown projects combined are at least 7Billion +
So if things continue to trend with Memphis’s economy, I don’t see why it shouldn’t have a strong case for a brighter outlook.
Yeah, Memphis has a ton of development and re-development happening now, or in the planning stages. If the economy continues to cooperate, Memphis could be a surprisingly strong boom city and job growth magnet in the upcoming few years.
Memphis has a unique attraction about it. It's friendly, has good city bones, a cool vibe, phenomenal music history, is affordable and investors and developers are already noticing from out of town, and putting money into the city.
Birmingham actually has better shopping out the three.
New Orleans has more high end shopping and boutiques but both are head and shoulders above Memphis in this aspect. I wouldn't be surprised if IKEA closes their Memphis store. Birmingham has great shopping considering it's size.
New Orleans has more high end shopping and boutiques but both are head and shoulders above Memphis in this aspect. I wouldn't be surprised if IKEA closes their Memphis store. Birmingham has great shopping considering it's size.
Actually, Birmingham has better shopping than New Orleans. It has the only Saks Fifth Avenue in Alabama, for starters.
I'd imagine Birmingham is better for high end shopping and New Orleans for boutiques and such but New Orleans also has a Saks Fifth in downtown.
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