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Old 02-14-2019, 02:23 PM
 
Location: Texarkana, Tx
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As far as transit options is Atlanta the clear winner since it has a heavy rail system or has Dallas caught up to it since it now has one of the largest light rail systems in the country?
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Old 02-14-2019, 02:33 PM
 
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As far as transit options is Atlanta the clear winner since it has a heavy rail system or has Dallas caught up to it since it now has one of the largest light rail systems in the country?
They still serve two different purposes: For getting around the core neighborhood and places of interest, MARTA is superior, but DART is better at covering the urban area and functions as a park and ride system for commuters
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Old 02-14-2019, 03:50 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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How is Atlanta pulling away in popularity? I'm not seeing that at all. It does have a good media presence but thats because it's one of the industries there, not that it's more popular. And according to population stats, Dallas isn't really pulling away in size either, at least not from Houston. The only pulling away that happened was the Texas metros increasing their population "lead" over ATL since the mid-00s. Back then it looked like Atlanta would pass up both.
Atlanta is most definitely pulling away in popularity. Yes, the media is an industry, but that doesnít take away the consequences of having that industry. A lot more famous people relocate here because of access to that industry and culture, celebrities have a following, so the things that they do them and places they are in ( Atlanta a lot of the time) are scene as happening places off that alone.

And yes, Dallas is further away from Atlanta populationwise, but still has a million more people than Houston and growing faster
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Old 02-14-2019, 04:15 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles & Houston
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Atlanta is most definitely pulling away in popularity. Yes, the media is an industry, but that doesn’t take away the consequences of having that industry. A lot more famous people relocate here because of access to that industry and culture, celebrities have a following, so the things that they do them and places they are in ( Atlanta a lot of the time) are scene as happening places off that alone.

And yes, Dallas is further away from Atlanta populationwise, but still has a million more people than Houston and growing faster
What is popularity to you? Is it the facts that celebrities may have homes there, is it the one with a faster growing domestic population, is it the one with the fastest growing international population, is it current influencers in certain industries being from a certain place, etc.? Also the talent that Atlanta attracts for media is nowhere near what say, an LA or NYC attract. Also, many media functions have slowly moved out of Atlanta (see CNN) and into those two cities. The problem is that Atlanta doesn't have a stranglehold on those things like LA or NYC. Media/entertainment will always be there, but I wouldn't say the same for Atlanta.

And DFW has about 600k more than Houston which is a little less than the current population of Fort Worth (the other anchor city for DFW). The Houston metro itself has 1M+ more people than Atlanta (5.8M vs 6.9M; DFW at 7.4M). Both grew faster than Atlanta in the 80s, 90s, and 00s after annual estimates showed the opposite and they have increased the population difference every decade. This is why I'm not really understanding your popularity statement. It doesn't make sense. All three are pretty popular but you can't really say either of them are more popular than the other, but it also depends by which metric. You could say Miami is more popular than all three!
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Old 02-14-2019, 06:25 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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What is popularity to you? Is it the facts that celebrities may have homes there, is it the one with a faster growing domestic population, is it the one with the fastest growing international population, is it current influencers in certain industries being from a certain place, etc.? Also the talent that Atlanta attracts for media is nowhere near what say, an LA or NYC attract. Also, many media functions have slowly moved out of Atlanta (see CNN) and into those two cities. The problem is that Atlanta doesn't have a stranglehold on those things like LA or NYC. Media/entertainment will always be there, but I wouldn't say the same for Atlanta.

And DFW has about 600k more than Houston which is a little less than the current population of Fort Worth (the other anchor city for DFW). The Houston metro itself has 1M+ more people than Atlanta (5.8M vs 6.9M; DFW at 7.4M). Both grew faster than Atlanta in the 80s, 90s, and 00s after annual estimates showed the opposite and they have increased the population difference every decade. This is why I'm not really understanding your popularity statement. It doesn't make sense. All three are pretty popular but you can't really say either of them are more popular than the other, but it also depends by which metric. You could say Miami is more popular than all three!
Miami is ahead of Dallas and Houston, Not Atlanta anymore. You can not downplay media here, not we do not have the history in film of LA or NY, but in the here and now, Atlanta is becoming that city. Add to that the music pop stars based out of here and reppin it all day, every day. It’s tough to compete with.

By popularity, I mean a common city name in pop culture, not visitation per se which can be motivated by lots of things.

You have the ATL movie with T.I., the Atlanta show series by Donald Glover (which just one an Emmy ), real housewives, love and hip-hop,Walking Dead, Stranger things, Chrissley knows Best and the list goes on.

The song welcome to Atlanta by Luda is ingrained into this generation’s head.

Atlanta celebrities:

T.I.
Ludacris
Tyler Perry
OutKast
Killer Mike (who is hot on the Pop-political side of things)
And more.

Top it off, when highly anticipated Bad Boys for life started filming they were spotted and looking for talent in... Atlanta. Black Panther is heavily associated with Atlanta. Night School in Atlanta. What Men Want in Atlanta.

50 cent is shooting his new BMF movie here currently.

This is leaving out touristy Atlanta which is predicated on MLK (a figure almost as well-known as Jesus), Coke, CNN, and so on.


You don’t have to like any of these things, but black culture and hip-hop are all-encompassing in pop culture. Ppl from all walks of life participate in it, especially with social media how it is. Entertainers and their followers share these things online constantly. Other genre’s aren’t as universal in their reach.

When people think of Houston and Dallas (or Texas in general), it’s almost always in the area of the job market or oil, probably more important than anything... but that’s not generally what is thought of as popular.

Atlanta’s entertainment culture is just too large and diverse for these two to keep up. However, I will concede that correction on population, I still say Dallas is at the top in this category.

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Old 02-14-2019, 06:39 PM
 
Location: Clemson, SC by way of Tyler,TX
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Miami is ahead of Dallas and Houston, Not Atlanta anymore. You can not downplay media here, not we do not have the history in film of LA or NY, but in the here and now, Atlanta is becoming that city. Add to that the music pop stars based out of here and reppin it all day, every day. Itís tough to compete with.

By popularity, I mean a common city name in pop culture, not visitation per se which can be motivated by lots of things.

You have the ATL movie with T.I., the Atlanta show series by Donald Glover (which just one an Emmy ), real housewives, love and hip-hop, and the list goes on.

The song welcome to Atlanta by Luda is ingrained into these generationís head.

Atlanta celebrities:

T.I.
Ludacris
Tyler Perry
OutKast
Killer Mike (who is hot on the Pop-political side of things)
And more.

Top it off, when highly anticipated Bad Boys for life started filming they were spotted and looking for talent in... Atlanta. Black Panther is heavily associated with Atlanta. Night School in Atlanta. What Men Want in Atlanta.

50 cent is shooting his new BMF movie here currently.

This is leaving out touristy Atlanta which is predicated on MLK (a figure almost as well-known as Jesus), Coke, CNN, and so on.


You donít have to like any of these things, but black culture and hip-hop are all-encompassing in pop culture. Ppl from all walks of life participate in it, especially with social media how it is. Entertainers and their followers share these things online constantly. Other genreís arenít as universal in their reach.

When people think of Houston and Dallas (or Texas in general), itís almost always in the area of the job market or oil, probably more important than anything... but thatís not generally what is thought of as popular.

Atlantaís entertainment culture is just too large and diverse for these two to keep up. However, I will concede that correction on population, I still say Dallas is at the top in this category.
Hard to argue with that.
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Old 02-14-2019, 07:20 PM
 
Location: Funky Town, Texas
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Dallas is ahead in both population and GDP and at the end of the day these are the two most important indicators to judge a region success.

To be honest on an economic level Dallas and Houston are in a different tier when compared to Atlanta.
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Old 02-14-2019, 07:50 PM
 
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Fair enough! None taken. Houses starting at 500K in the desirable high growth suburbs like Frisco, Allen, McKinney seem to be more of the norm than they used to for sure.
How big are these 500K houses? Because a year or two ago they were advertising 2,000 sq foot houses for 250K in The Woodlands, near Houston. Seems hard to believe home prices in Texas would have doubled in two years.
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Old 02-14-2019, 07:53 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Hard to argue with that.
Canít tell if you are being sarcastic or not lol.
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Old 02-14-2019, 08:04 PM
 
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Canít tell if you are being sarcastic or not lol.
Gaylord is well known for being very sarcastic.
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