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Old 02-17-2019, 06:25 PM
 
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Here's my version of what these cities do best:

Atlanta-sprawl
Dallas-corporate relocations
Houston-humidity
Well that's not biased at all.
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Old 02-17-2019, 07:05 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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"Overstated" meaning that the lack of diversity hasn't actually been as problematic as often indicated. At least for this time.
Again though I think it has. Houston actually lost jobs in 2015 and 2016 when Dallas and Atlanta were still piling them on. That says we rely way too much on oil and gas to me.
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Old 02-17-2019, 09:44 PM
 
Location: Dallas, Texas
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I dont know what circles you hang around but I never hear anyone say Dallas is cooler than Houston but maybe it is to a certain group of people
And we don't hear people in Dallas or Austin saying Houston is cooler. Nothing in Houston like the strip on Cedar Springs, Deep Ellum, Bishop Arts, etc.
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Old 02-18-2019, 09:24 AM
 
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Again though I think it has. Houston actually lost jobs in 2015 and 2016 when Dallas and Atlanta were still piling them on. That says we rely way too much on oil and gas to me.
The effects still aren't as bad as they were hyped up to be. Not that I'm advocating for complacency.

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Old 02-18-2019, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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The effects still aren't as bad as they were hyped up to be. Not that I'm advocating for complacency.
Anytime you are loosing jobs as we were it needs to be cause for alarm. The only reason it wasn’t worse had nothing to do with Houston. It was because the national economy was good at the time.

The effects were pretty bad. The population kept growing because of natural growth and international growth (particularly illegal immigrants), but we lost a great deal of domestic migrants those years.

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Old 02-18-2019, 12:51 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Anytime you are loosing jobs as we were it needs to be cause for alarm. The only reason it wasnít worse had nothing to do with Houston. It was because the national economy was good at the time.

The effects were pretty bad. The population kept growing because of natural growth and international growth (particularly illegal immigrants), but we lost a great deal of domestic migrants those years.
Iím not trying to pick or start a fight, but when I made a similar statement a few years ago in regards to Houston and how much illegal immigration played a part in not only there, but Texas in general, folks came for my edges and salvation. So I assume itís a known but unspoken thing. Not saying Houston wouldnít have strong growth without II, but it does play a substantial part. Nearly 2 million folks in Houston are from Mexico. Iím curious if thatís the legal population?

And before anyone comes for my throat, Iím not being racist. Itís an honest question. Because if thatís just the legal population, Houston might already be well beyond 7 million strong.
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Old 02-18-2019, 12:55 PM
 
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Anytime you are loosing jobs as we were it needs to be cause for alarm. The only reason it wasn’t worse had nothing to do with Houston. It was because the national economy was good at the time.

The effects were pretty bad. The population kept growing because of natural growth and international growth (particularly illegal immigrants), but we lost a great deal of domestic migrants those years.
Domestic migration always seemed relatively low in Houston compared to Austin and Dallas.

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Old 02-18-2019, 02:07 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Iím not trying to pick or start a fight, but when I made a similar statement a few years ago in regards to Houston and how much illegal immigration played a part in not only there, but Texas in general, folks came for my edges and salvation. So I assume itís a known but unspoken thing. Not saying Houston wouldnít have strong growth without II, but it does play a substantial part. Nearly 2 million folks in Houston are from Mexico. Iím curious if thatís the legal population?

And before anyone comes for my throat, Iím not being racist. Itís an honest question. Because if thatís just the legal population, Houston might already be well beyond 7 million strong.
It includes everyone, but the 2 million figure is mostly American born Mexicans only about 600k were actually born in Mexico.

The Greater Houston area has about 600k illegal immigrants total. Houston has been getting about 50k in international immigration a year and about 10k of that is illegal by estimates. However Houston has been averaging about 100k a year in growth so itís about 10%
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Old 02-18-2019, 02:34 PM
 
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And we don't hear people in Dallas or Austin saying Houston is cooler. Nothing in Houston like the strip on Cedar Springs, Deep Ellum, Bishop Arts, etc.
Houston might not have the cool factor, but it's definitely got a down-to-earth factor.
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Old 02-18-2019, 04:04 PM
 
Location: Wonderland
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Houston might not have the cool factor, but it's definitely got a down-to-earth factor.
And the Down to Business factor as well.

I wouldn't want to live in either Houston or Dallas (or Atlanta either for the record) but I totally agree that Houston has got a lot more going on for it than it's often given credit for.
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