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Old 09-11-2009, 02:22 PM
 
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^The ironic thing is that even though SF is supposed to be anti "Manhattanization" it still has one of the largest numbers of highrises in the US (something like 400 buildings over 12 stories), and we've been going on a skyscraper construction boom since 1999 (though it's been stalled by the current economic situation).

The only thing anti-Manhattanization did in SF was keep the number of new highrises built to a very low number in the 80's and 90's, and create height limits, which as of late are being revised upwards in some areas (such as around the new transbay terminal site). Most of the big opponents of high rises in SF are now dead, or just don't really care much anymore.
I hope they build the Transbay tower. A supertall will look awesome in SF. It's about time.

I'm glad for anti-Manhattanization. Most building designs in the 80s and 90s look pretty bland anyhow. The modern materials and designs, curtain glass, and earthquake proof technologies will eventually make for a better skyline anyways.

 
Old 09-12-2009, 03:10 PM
 
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Charlotte! Just trying to be.
 
Old 09-12-2009, 03:32 PM
 
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Orlando FL and it fails miserably.
 
Old 09-12-2009, 04:30 PM
 
Location: where my heart is
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ANY city in Florida. They cannot exist without Northern toursists/transplants/snowbirds.
 
Old 09-12-2009, 07:10 PM
 
Location: Sanford, FL
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Rapid City SD trying to be a Denver
Really, is it close even? If so, I may want to take a look at it.
 
Old 09-13-2009, 11:33 AM
 
Location: East of the Sun, West of the Moon
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I don't think Albuquerque wants to be the next Phoenix. If anything, it's trying not be the next Phoenix.
I couldn't agree more. It's the one thing all Albuquerqueans agree upon.

The fear is, if we don't try to be something else, we will find ourselves becoming Phoenix. Phoenix isn't made, it just happens.

That is why Albuquerque is trying to become Portland, Oregon.


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Old 09-13-2009, 12:28 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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I couldn't agree more. It's the one thing all Albuquerqueans agree upon.

The fear is, if we don't try to be something else, we will find ourselves becoming Phoenix. Phoenix isn't made, it just happens.

That is why Albuquerque is trying to become Portland, Oregon.


ABQConvict
Please...nice sweeping generalization. Phoenix becomes the whipping boy again. Yawn.
 
Old 09-13-2009, 04:08 PM
 
Location: Underneath the Pecan Tree
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Houston trying to be a Chicago
Really? Since when??? Because if we are, than we sure ain't doing a good job at it.
 
Old 09-13-2009, 07:08 PM
 
Location: East of the Sun, West of the Moon
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Please...nice sweeping generalization. Phoenix becomes the whipping boy again. Yawn.
So do you believe that Phoenix was developed with a cogent plan to make itself a compact, ecologically sound city that is easy to efficiently get around in as opposed to a water gulping haphazard array of sprawling housing developments linked by a massive network of broad, high-speed auto routes with very little concession made to people who wish to get around by foot, bicycle, or inexpensive mass transit?

There are a lot of things to enjoy and admire about Phoenix. City planning is not one of them. Albuquerque has grown similarly up to this point. Many here point to Phoenix as a counter example of the style of growth we would like.

On the other hand Albuquerque is podunk compared to Phoenix, so don't feel too bad. I heard one woman complaining that we don't have a Nordstoms. Imagine the horror.


ABQConvict
 
Old 09-14-2009, 10:41 AM
 
Location: Willowbend/Houston
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I dont know that any city ever tried to become another city. I think its that some cities look at other cities that do certain things well and try to adopt them.

Dallas really wants a decent rail system. They seem to be big fans of the L train in Chicago because thats the system they are trying to model DART after. Dallas wont ever have a system that encompassing, but just because they look at another city that has something good to imitate it doesnt mean they are trying to be like that city.

However, this all being said, in Texas if I had to say cities are trying to be like other cities, I would say:

Dallas is trying to be Chicago
Houston is trying to be LA
Austin is trying to be San Francisco
Fort Worth and San Antonio are trying to be themselves.

However, I dont truly believe it.
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