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Old 02-26-2019, 06:18 AM
 
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I think the Twin Cities have separates themselves from the KC/St Louis/Cleveland/Cincinnati Crowd.

Nashville has moved up from the Richmond, Hartford, Buffalo, Memphis tier to that tier with the aforementioned cities.


Atlanta/Dallas/Houston I think have merged with the Boston/Philly/DC tier.


Maybe a few Rust belt cities dropped a peg. Detroit fell out of that Boston/Philly/DC tier and is now in the Seattle/Minneapolis level.
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Old 02-26-2019, 07:13 AM
 
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how is Richmond in the same tier as Hartford?
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Old 02-26-2019, 07:20 AM
 
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how is Richmond in the same tier as Hartford?
Metro populations are similar Hartford 1,210,000 metro, Richmond 1,294,000.

How do you define them as not in the same tier?
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Old 02-26-2019, 08:02 AM
 
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Metro populations are similar Hartford 1,210,000 metro, Richmond 1,294,000.

How do you define them as not in the same tier?
Richmond is getting a lot of buzz lately and popular with millennials. Hartford is still Hartford.
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Old 02-26-2019, 08:05 AM
 
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NYC, LA and Chicago are still 1, 2 and 3 respectively.

After that it gets murky. You have your standard 3 (Boston, DC, Philadelphia), and I think Dallas and Houston would join that group due to their size and economic performance. Each of those has its pluses and minuses, but I think that is a fair grouping.

After that, I think Seattle has risen, Austin has risen, Charlotte has risen, Minneapolis has risen.

Detroit has fallen, Baltimore has fallen.

Many other mid size cities I do not see a huge change. Pittsburgh for example has been losing population but reinventing itself, so it evens out.
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Old 02-26-2019, 08:17 AM
 
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Richmond is getting a lot of buzz lately and popular with millennials. Hartford is still Hartford.
Hartford still has a bigger economy today it’s absurd to put Richmond a tier above Hartford.

It’s not like either has significant cultural weight like New Orleans does to put one over the other.
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Old 02-26-2019, 08:21 AM
 
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Hartford still has a bigger economy today it’s absurd to put Richmond a tier above Hartford.

It’s not like either has significant cultural weight like New Orleans does to put one over the other.
Hartford may have a solid white collar economy, but how many of those office tower workers live there? Pretty much none of them. They drive in from the 'burbs at 9, and head straight back out at 5. I think Richmond has a more solid base of middle/professional class residents then Hartford, which remains largely poor.
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Old 02-26-2019, 08:24 AM
 
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Hartford may have a solid white collar economy, but how many of those office tower workers live there? Pretty much none of them. They drive in from the 'burbs at 9, and head straight back out at 5. I think Richmond has a more solid base of middle/professional class residents then Hartford, which remains largely poor.
Thatís due to the relatively large Richmond City Limits. Richmond is the size of Hartford+West Hartford+East Hartford.
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Old 02-26-2019, 08:33 AM
 
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Thatís due to the relatively large Richmond City Limits. Richmond is the size of Hartford+West Hartford+East Hartford.
Your statement about size is true but that's not the reason for the difference. Richmond's bad hoods are on the outskirts of town and the hot neighborhoods are all downtown walkable urban areas.

Hartford's bad neighborhoods are near the center of the metro and the nice neighborhoods are literally the suburbs. The two places are totally opposite in that regard
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Old 02-26-2019, 08:45 AM
 
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Your statement about size is true but that's not the reason for the difference. Richmond's bad hoods are on the outskirts of town and the hot neighborhoods are all downtown walkable urban areas.

Hartford's bad neighborhoods are near the center of the metro and the nice neighborhoods are literally the suburbs. The two places are totally opposite in that regard
Cool Richmond a a couple more chic urban neighborhoods using that logic Providence is a tier above Charlotte.
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