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I'll continue to walk to my office back-and-forth while others gripe about how long their commutes into the city in their ecologically-unfriendly SUV's take from the exurbs and how expensive it is to park Downtown. I'll continue to be one of the few and the proud 300,000 in my city that is surrounded by 2,000,000+ suburbanites, which is why we have some of the nation's worst traffic congestion.
For the record by the metrics of this forum I'm not even a middle-class American, as I make ~$45,000/year. Most on here seem to make $100,000+ and consider themselves to be "middle-class", which, I suppose, makes me "working-class".
You can live in a walkable area on that salary? Nice
You can live in a walkable area on that salary? Nice
A single person can live in a walkable area on that salary here too. There are numerous cities where this is possible. With families, things are quite different.
The number of people living in walkable neighborhoods is much smaller than the number who seem to want to...that's why these places are typically expensive!
Obviously location choices have many factors, and people often put square footage, school districts, and other aspects first. But even then they tend to say they'd like their locations to be walkable.
As for "gaps," I'd say CD posters tend to think about urban issues beyond bumper-sticker one-liners. The general public doesn't seem to think about this stuff other than what directly affects them and maybe an (often false) "easy answer" that oughta happen to fix things.
A single person can live in a walkable area on that salary here too. There are numerous cities where this is possible. With families, things are quite different.
This and even in some cases with a family, it might be possible, if you know where to look. An area that is surrounded by census tracts within the income range: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.1441...6!9m2!1b1!2i37
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I'll continue to walk to my office back-and-forth while others gripe about how long their commutes into the city in their ecologically-unfriendly SUV's take from the exurbs and how expensive it is to park Downtown. I'll continue to be one of the few and the proud 300,000 in my city that is surrounded by 2,000,000+ suburbanites, which is why we have some of the nation's worst traffic congestion.
For the record by the metrics of this forum I'm not even a middle-class American, as I make ~$45,000/year. Most on here seem to make $100,000+ and consider themselves to be "middle-class", which, I suppose, makes me "working-class".
Very true. People visit parts of New England that are largely irrelevant to the majority of New England E
Area. Except Boston. And even then they're only going to a few spots.
I think I’d disagree with that other than Portland, ME, Non-Boston New England cities have like 0 defenders on CD.
Compared to Buffalo or Columbia or whatever places like Hartford, Bridgeport, Springfield or Worcester have few to no defenders.
Especially Worcester, which is just about the most inoffensive place in the country gets crapped on and people from MA are generally the worst offenders.
For the record by the metrics of this forum I'm not even a middle-class American, as I make ~$45,000/year. Most on here seem to make $100,000+ and consider themselves to be "middle-class", which, I suppose, makes me "working-class".
Internet discussion forums are cesspools of embellishment. This website in particular seems to be a magnet for people who have a need to over compensate. While I don't doubt there is a share of people who earn higher than average incomes on here, let's not give credibility to the frauds. You can spot them(and their lack of real life experience) pretty quickly by their over use of caricatured stereotypes.
Agreed 100%. I personally value urbanity, walkability, mixed-use zoning, etc.
Most Americans? As long as they can drive their SUV's to Walmart, work, and Applebee's in a relatively brief amount of time they're happy campers.
I wholeheartedly agree sir . But I think you're being too kind. Let's be honest - most Americans value crap. They treat our Earth like toilet paper and treat their own lives like a series of TV channels to flip through. It's just another failed civilization at the end of empire (similar to the Roman Empire). My recommendation would be to sit back, grab some popcorn, and enjoy the circus.
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How about...all of them?
True this...
Let me not exclude NY, a city most of us would agree needs no boost. There are parts of this country with a natural magnetism towards NYC (vast majority of which being on the Eastern Seaboard or Northeast), but the romanticism of New York is way toned down in real life outside of the net. On here though, there is a disproportionate number of NY groupies from all over...
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Internet discussion forums are cesspools of embellishment. This website in particular seems to be a magnet for people who have a need to over compensate. While I don't doubt there is a share of people who earn higher than average incomes on here, let's not give credibility to the frauds. You can spot them(and their lack of real life experience) pretty quickly by their over use of caricatured stereotypes.
Say that, sister!
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. But I think you're being too kind. Let's be honest - most Americans value crap. They treat our Earth like toilet paper and treat their own lives like a series of TV channels to flip through. It's just another failed civilization at the end of empire (similar to the Roman Empire). My recommendation would be to sit back, grab some popcorn, and enjoy the circus.
