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Old 03-20-2019, 08:51 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Is this directly from the US Census/American FactFinder? I'm only asking because the initial source used has a different percentage: Moderator cut: link removed, competitor site

That is still relatively high and I believe it is one of only about 5 metro/micro areas in the country that is at least 10% black with a black MHHI over $50,000(DC, East Stroudsburg PA, Elizabethtown KY and Ft. Leonard Wood MO, last 2 are military areas). Source(2014 info): U.S. Median Black Household Income Metro Area Rank Based on ACS 2010-2014 data
Yeah from Factfinder. Here are screenshots:




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Old 03-20-2019, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Southwest Suburbs
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Statistical atlas numbers are from 2016 ACS estimates.
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Old 03-20-2019, 10:55 AM
 
Location: D.C. / I-95
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I wonder how many of those households are military
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Old 03-20-2019, 11:16 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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still only 10% when you look at the metro
But we should expect a lower % for a major metro overall. Blacks only make up like 30% of metro Atlanta.

For example, DC (DMV metro) is at 12%. That’s not a knock. These are just very large metros.

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However, if you isolate for certain areas/counties within them, the concentration of black wealth becomes very apparent.


Milwaukee metro is way smaller, but I bet blacks there make up an even smaller percentage of the above 200k wealth bracket. This could probably be said for the others that ranked surprisingly high. We all know Atlanta and DC (and Houston) reign supreme here.

Also, household income could have a lot to do with culture, a single person could make 140k alone while bob and his wife make 100k a piece in the same household. The latter doesn’t translate into more black wealth. The former makes more than both of them individually with evev though his household income is lower.

I would say singles/bachelor culture is much more pervasive in transplant cities for professional AA’s like DC or Atlanta, ppl in places like Milwaukee are probably marrying there HS sweethearts a lot more.

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Old 03-20-2019, 11:25 AM
 
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But we should expect a lower % for a major metro overall. Blacks only make up like 30% of metro Atlanta.

For example, DC (DMV metro) is at 12%. That’s not a knock. These are just very large metros.

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However, if you isolate for certain areas/counties within them, the concentration of black wealth becomes very apparent.


Milwaukee metro is way smaller, but I bet blacks there make up an even smaller percentage of the above 200k wealth bracket. This could probably be said for the others that ranked surprisingly high. We all know Atlanta and DC (and Houston) reign supreme here.

Also, household income could have a lot to do with culture, a single person could make 140k alone while bob and his wife make 100k a piece in the same household. The latter doesn’t translate into more black wealth. The former makes more than both of them individually with evev though his household income is lower.

I would say singles/bachelor culture is much more pervasive in transplant cities for professional AA’s like DC or Atlanta, ppl in places like Milwaukee are probably marrying there HS sweethearts a lot more.
Yes most black transplant cities have a prevalent singles culture. I think Atlanta in particularly probably has a higher percentage of single AA professionals than all of these cities. Atlanta has a reputation for being known as a city where people don't settle down in comparison to other cities and having an imbalanced female/male ratio. DC is probably most similar to Atlanta in that aspect but I feel like they're still probably more black families in the D.C. metro area. The cost of living is low enough in Atlanta that your money goes a lot further than it would in DC or New York. Milwaukee metro is only at 2.2% out of 58K anyway so it really doesn't have a significant population of high income black earners. That first post was misleading because it had a lot of cities in the list that are in decline where most people that make over 200K would simply not choose to live within the city limits.

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Old 03-20-2019, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Yes most black transplant cities have a prevalent singles culture. I think Atlanta in particularly probably has a higher percentage of single AA professionals than all of these cities. Atlanta has a reputation for being known as a city where people don't settle down in comparison to other cities and having an imbalanced female/male ratio. DC is probably most similar to Atlanta in that aspect but I feel like they're still probably more black families in the D.C. metro area. The cost of living is low enough in Atlanta that your money goes a lot further than it would in DC or New York. Milwaukee metro is only at 2.2% out of 58K anyway so it really doesn't have a significant population of high income black earners. That first post was misleading because it had a lot of cities in the list that are in decline where most people that make over 200K would simply not choose to live within the city limits.
Yeah. I was just using it as an example to drive my point home. Ppl give very shallow analysis of statistics to try to generate “shock” facts, im surprised only a few are calling them out.

But 2.2% of 58k households is metro minuscule compared to Atlanta’s 10% of 228k households
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Old 03-20-2019, 11:55 AM
 
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But we should expect a lower % for a major metro overall. Blacks only make up like 30% of metro Atlanta.

For example, DC (DMV metro) is at 12%. That’s not a knock. These are just very large metros.

Moderator cut: link removed, competitor site

However, if you isolate for certain areas/counties within them, the concentration of black wealth becomes very apparent.


Milwaukee metro is way smaller, but I bet blacks there make up an even smaller percentage of the above 200k wealth bracket. This could probably be said for the others that ranked surprisingly high. We all know Atlanta and DC (and Houston) reign supreme here.

Also, household income could have a lot to do with culture, a single person could make 140k alone while bob and his wife make 100k a piece in the same household. The latter doesn’t translate into more black wealth. The former makes more than both of them individually with evev though his household income is lower.

I would say singles/bachelor culture is much more pervasive in transplant cities for professional AA’s like DC or Atlanta, ppl in places like Milwaukee are probably marrying there HS sweethearts a lot more.
Good points also note that the city of Atlanta is only 7% and the metro is at 10% - therefore we can deduce that the suburbs are actually over 10% if we average them with 7% to get to 10%.

That in itself is very interesting that despite blacks making up a smaller percentage of the population in the suburbs than ITP, black wealth is substantially more prevalent in the surrounding counties (a point already made by someone already)

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Old 03-20-2019, 11:58 AM
 
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Another thing is even after $200k, it would be interesting to see how far above that figure some of these households go. So, while NYC and DC might not have the percentages as say Atlanta or even the Tidewater area of VA, where are these percentages at say $500k or $1 million?

Something else to consider. In even Buffalo, Milwaukee, Cleveland, Detroit, etc., think about occupations like pro athletes that may actually live in those areas/cities. An example of this that comes to mind for me is when John Salley played for the Detroit Pistons, he actually lived in a mansion in the Palmer Woods neighborhood of Detroit(it was in the April 1990 edition of Ebony magazine). So, you may find something similar, here and there, even in some of these other cities and not necessarily with just athletes either.

https://books.google.com/books?id=pc...page&q&f=false

Some Palmer Woods/Sherwood Forest info: Census Tract 538200 in Wayne County, Michigan
Census Tract 538200 in Wayne County, Michigan Income and Careers
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Old 03-20-2019, 11:59 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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I have these lists on my phone and decided to merge them, for whomever is interested.

The criteria is counties with 50,000+ households earning $200,000+, so the big centers of wealth, and the percent of those households are black households. Using the 2017 Factfinder data.

Some interesting things to glean imo.

US Counties by Households Earning $200,000+ and Percent that are Black
Los Angeles, CA 302,279...4.3% Black
Santa Clara, CA 165,307...1.2%
New York, NY 163,823...2.6%
Cook, IL 161,673...5.8%
Orange, CA 144,084...1.0%
King, WA 137,504...1.8%
Harris, TX 126,800...6.1%
San Diego, CA 122,227...1.4%
Middlesex, MA 111,303...1.9%
Maricopa, AZ 104,018...2.2%
Alameda, CA 101,429...3.7%
Nassau, NY 94,766...5.5%
San Francisco, CA 92,256...1.8%
Fairfax, VA 91,761...5.0%
Kings, NY 84,867...13.4%
Westchester, NY 75,767...6.1%
Montgomery, MD 75,434...7.6%
Contra Costa, CA 71,461...5.3%
Suffolk, NY 70,682...1.7%
San Mateo, CA 69,264...less than 1,000
Fairfield, CT 68,549...2.0%
Dallas, TX 60,680...7.0%
Bergen, NJ 59,629...4.0%
Hennepin, MN 58,541...less than 1,000
Oakland, MI 56,533...5.7%
Fulton, GA 54,000...9.6%
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Old 03-20-2019, 12:02 PM
 
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I have these lists on my phone and decided to merge them, for whomever is interested.

The criteria is counties with 50,000+ households earning $200,000+, so the big centers of wealth, and the percent of those households are black households. Using the 2017 Factfinder data.

Some interesting things to glean imo.

US Counties by Households Earning $200,000+ and Percent that are Black
Los Angeles, CA 302,279...4.3% Black
Santa Clara, CA 165,307...1.2%
New York, NY 163,823...2.6%
Cook, IL 161,673...5.8%
Orange, CA 144,084...1.0%
King, WA 137,504...1.8%
Harris, TX 126,800...6.1%
San Diego, CA 122,227...1.4%
Middlesex, MA 111,303...1.9%
Maricopa, AZ 104,018...2.2%
Alameda, CA 101,429...3.7%
Nassau, NY 94,766...5.5%
San Francisco, CA 92,256...1.8%
Fairfax, VA 91,761...5.0%
Kings, NY 84,867...13.4%
Westchester, NY 75,767...6.1%
Montgomery, MD 75,434...7.6%
Contra Costa, CA 71,461...5.3%
Suffolk, NY 70,682...1.7%
San Mateo, CA 69,264...less than 1,000
Fairfield, CT 68,549...2.0%
Dallas, TX 60,680...7.0%
Bergen, NJ 59,629...4.0%
Hennepin, MN 58,541...less than 1,000
Oakland, MI 56,533...5.7%
Fulton, GA 54,000...9.6%
Good info and it looks like people are sleeping on Brooklyn(Kings County) in regards to the topic.

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