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Sorry but you failed again, you are using PPP and not nominal. I am using both nominal numbers, please use the correct numbers next time.
And global power has alot to do with quality of life right?
So try it again Tokyos gdp per capita is $64,722
New York's gdp per capita is $57,097
Either use both PPP numbers or both Nominal numbers, not one PPP and one nominal. Makes you seem foolish.
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Originally Posted by NihonKitty
Also wikipedias information is incorrect which is why near tokyos population number it is even says "dubious/discuss". Also the number on wikipedia is PPP not nominal which is real numbers. If you use PPP than Chinas economy is already half the size of the US which we know is not true. But even then Tokyo is still #1 and not NYC in both GDP ppp and nominal.
According to the Japanese Government
Tokyos gdp per capita is $64,722.
New York's gdp per capita is $57,097
From the US government and japanese government
BEA: Regional Economic Accounts
Japan Reference - Japan Fact Sheet (http://www.jref.com/society/japan_fact_sheet.shtml - broken link)
So even in per capita Tokyo wins. Sorry.. but these are the facts.
New York City has Tokyo beat when it comes to per capita GDP. Funny how a simple commerce city like NYC tops these capital cities.
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Global Power City Index, a ranking of 35 of the world’s top cities by the Institute for Urban Strategies at The Mori Memorial Foundation in Tokyo.
According to the institute, “as half of the people of the world are living in cities, it is necessary to create attractive urban space to pull the people, goods, and money, those who are moving borderless, and to pursue the enjoyable and livable environment.” The index, which is the first of its kind out of Japan, aims to judge the comprehensive power of a city.
The ranking is based on six overall objective factors, Economy," "Research & Development," "Cultural Interaction," "Livability," "Ecology & Natural Environment," and "Accessibility," with 69 individual indicators among them. The institute also expanded its study by looking at the cities from the subjective perspective of five different ‘actors’ (or types of people who influence cities): global “Managers," "Researchers," "Artists," "Visitors," and local "Residents."
While the institute’s research is aimed largely at finding ways to improve Tokyo’s future, it strived to maintain a fairness in city rankings. The Global Power City Index, which is in its second year of ranking cities, was released on October 22 (JST).
The Top 10 cities in the world for 2009 according to the Global Power City Index are:
1. New York
2. London
3. Paris
4. Tokyo
5. Singapore
6. Berlin
7. Vienna
8. Amsterdam
9. Zurich
10. Hong Kong.
Revert to the bolded sections of the passage. This study also included quality of life, not just economic dominance.
New York City has Tokyo beat when it comes to per capita GDP. Funny how a simple commerce city like NYC tops these capital cities.
No it doesnt, why do you keep saying this? Are you blind?
Tokyos gdp per capita is $64,722 New York's gdp per capita is $57,097
I have a feeling you are going to respond with Tokyos gdp PPP number again lol. Its not that hard to use the same data set. Both of the above are nominal.
How does that equate to New York beating tokyo in gdp per capita? Are you in denial now? And yes it included quality of life among many other things. You were only talking about quality of life. When it comes to global power NYC ranks higher according to that study. When it comes to quality of life Tokyo ranks higher, even the Mercer study shows that. Only thing I see why tokyo is 4 in that study is because of "cultural interaction" and "accesibility".
Anyway maybe I have to give a lesson on Nominal gdp
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When comparing GDP figures from one year to another, it is desirable to compensate for changes in the value of money – inflation or deflation. The raw GDP figure as given by the equations above is called the nominal, or historical, or current, GDP.
As estimates and assumptions have to be made, the results produced by different organizations for the same country tend to differ, sometimes substantially. PPP figures are estimates rather than hard facts, and should be used with caution.
The advantages of using nominal GDP figures include that less estimation is required, and that they more accurately reflect the participation of the inhabitants of a country in the global economy.
And that is why no one in the global community uses PPP numbers when discussing gdp. If you used PPP numbers China right now will be more than half of the US economy and double that of Japans. But in reality it is still the third largest economy in the world by real numbers aka nominal.
So again gdp per capita (nominal aka real)
Tokyos gdp per capita is $64,722 New York's gdp per capita is $57,097
Anyways I can't take thid discussion seriously anymore when people said quality of life in Tokyo is third world. That has to be one of the stupidest things I have ever read, ever.
I think it comes down to although Tokyo is more technologically advanced and has a higher quality of life than New York, New York wins when it comes to world respect and influence. Blame it on the fact that English is the new global language and not Japanese but it matters little. The largest and most important international organization-the UN is located in NYC. NYC simply matters more to the world.
The Tokyo Stock Exchange has 2400 listings and is really the only globally important one. Meanwhile, wall street has the NYSE with 2770 listings and a market cap of 10.8 Trillion as well as NASDAQ and AMEX of lesser importance. Wall Street is facing stiff competition from London which is more important in foreign exchange and has more global equity passing through but really stands above Tokyo in finance.
When NYC sneezes, the entire world catches a cold as we found out in financial crisis.
So to be honest, I think Tokyo is a better city in many ways, maybe even most. Apart of NYC's ease to immigrate to and its diversity, it just doesn't compare well with Tokyo. But New York simply matters more to the world a little more than Tokyo does. Tokyo's cultural draw (although immense) is mainly confined to East Asia and Japanophiles elsewhere.
Anyways, I think it's safe to assume that the top 3 global cities are NYC, Tokyo, and London.
The Top 10 cities in the world for 2009 according to the Global Power City Index are:
1. New York
2. London
3. Paris
4. Tokyo
5. Singapore
6. Berlin
7. Vienna
8. Amsterdam
9. Zurich
10. Hong Kong.
You have very little credibility on here after calling Tokyo part of the 3rd world! But anyways, I agree with the list except switch Tokyo with Paris. But power =/= "better".
All of you sailor moon fans hear ye, get it through your thick skulls. Researchers out of tokyo nominated new york number one. Timeout is operated out of the UK and nominated new york number one. It is the general consensus around the world that new york and london duke it out for world capitol. Tokyo cannot compete agaisnt true world cities such as nyc,paris and london period. The most you could give tokyo is capitol of asia
You live in america correct?. What country is better than america? Let me know so i can move tm
And the average person overseas thinks americans are overweight and unintelligent. Two way street
Sailor Moon fans? Thick skulls? Good job with the ignorance again.
The researchers in Tokyo you cited put the top four cities in the same tier. Have you actually read anything on it or are you just caught up by pretty lists because they're easier to read?
And what point are you trying to make with "average person overseas thinks americans are overweight and unintelligent"? That both an American poster and the average person overseas agrees? How is this a two way street? Do you even think before you type?
Dont be an idiot its common sense that nyc wouldnt recieve the same attention in america that tokyo(being the countries only major city) recieves from japan. Tokyo doesnt have a chicago or an la,or a detroit taking away industry and financial services
Philidelphia,washington dc etc are all in the mid atlantic. What happened to them
Oh good, so you really don't know much about Japan. How surprising. You understand that Osaka and its metro is huge, right? Or do you think a metro with over 18 million people that's host to global 500 corporations, a large securities exchange, great infrastructure, and a high quality of life somehow not as significant as Chicago, LA, or Detroit? Or how about Nagoya with over 8 million people in its metro and a major center of the auto and electronics industry? Yes, Tokyo's huge and the primate city, but Japan itself is huge with over a third of the US's population and the second-largest economy in the world. There's enough for more than one significant metro.
What do you mean what's happened to Philly and DC? Did you actually understand what I wrote or is this a really convincing attempt at playing dumb? NYC became as powerful as it is for a reason (it does not somehow just drop down by divine providence or some innate superiority of New Yorkers). It had a huge natural harbor that was on the Atlantic. Much of why it took off over all the other great cities with good natural harbors on the Atlantic (though none of them as good) is because NYC was at the terminus of the Hudson River which also had the only real geographic break in the Appalachians allowing NYC to becoming a gateway to the interior through the Erie Canal, into the Great Lakes, and thus allowing NYC to become the main port of call for a vast and productive portion of the American interior--no other city on the eastern seaboard was as fortuitous .
NYC has its reasons for becoming as powerful as it is. I see no reason why the reasons for why a city is powerful should be used to discount its power (in the same way that a city should be discounted for being a capital).
Doesnt sound too different than some New Yorkers in here lol.
C'mon now? You are making fun of New Yorkers now?
Like or not New York is one of the world's cultural capitals. What about Tokyo? Who outside of Japan wants to listen to Japanese music or watch Japanese movies? Who travell to Tokyo to see the great Japanese theater? Tokyo even though better organized and cleaner in the same time seems culturally sterile. Uninspiring. Marginalized.
C'mon now? You are making fun of New Yorkers now?
Like or not New York is one of the world's cultural capitals. What about Tokyo? Who outside of Japan wants to listen to Japanese music or watch Japanese movies? Who travell to Tokyo to see the great Japanese theater? Tokyo even though better organized and cleaner in the same time seems culturally sterile. Uninspiring. Marginalized.
There are plenty of people who watch Japanese movies and like Japanese music...... Japanese movies are so popular that hollywood has to re-make them for english speaking audiences.
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. What country is better than america? Let me know so i can move tm