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View Poll Results: Best metros for blacks outside the South?
NYC/NJ/CT 41 25.95%
Chicago 16 10.13%
Los Angeles 19 12.03%
Detroit 13 8.23%
Philadelphia 31 19.62%
Bay Area 0 0%
Boston 8 5.06%
St. Louis 5 3.16%
Boston 1 0.63%
Other 24 15.19%
Voters: 158. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-11-2020, 11:26 AM
 
Location: D.C. / I-95
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As a twist on these usual threads, I wanted to discuss the best areas for Black Americans outside the South. Generally the best black cities threads rightfully highlight cities in the South but a substantial amount of Black people live in the Northeast, Midwest, West, etc (45% of us) .

By South, I will use the US Census definition so this poll excludes DC, Baltimore, etc.

Factors to discuss are job opportunities, prevalence of black urban neighborhoods, black suburbs, good schools, wealth/high incomes, safety, upward mobility, cultural offerings, etc.

EDIT: ignore the double Boston option.

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Old 07-11-2020, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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You mean best city for blacks to self segregate?
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Old 07-11-2020, 11:35 AM
 
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DC is in the South?
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Old 07-11-2020, 11:36 AM
 
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DC is in the South?
According to the US Census, West Virginia, Delaware, Maryland and DC are in the South.
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Old 07-11-2020, 11:42 AM
 
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In Order

#1 Philadelphia
#2 NYC
#3 Los Angeles
#4 Chicago
#5 Boston

The rest either aren't a good metro for anybody, or are completely hostile to blacks.

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DC is in the South?
Technically the south ends at Baltimore according to the U.S. Census
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Old 07-11-2020, 11:50 AM
 
Location: D.C. / I-95
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In Order

#1 Philadelphia
#2 NYC
#3 Los Angeles
#4 Chicago
#5 Boston

The rest either aren't a good metro for anybody, or are completely hostile to blacks.



Technically the south ends at Baltimore according to the U.S. Census
Interesting. Why Philly over NYC? And is Detroit that bad for blacks that its below Boston?
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Old 07-11-2020, 11:53 AM
 
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Interesting. Why Philly over NYC? And is Detroit that bad for blacks that its below Boston?
Philly to me reminds me of a Northeastern Atlanta in respect to black culture / heritage, NYC is more cosmopolitan.

Detroit may have the culture but lacks the economic standards most of the other metros have. I personally would rather Boston over it. Culture alone isn't everything.
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Old 07-11-2020, 12:05 PM
 
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Philly to me reminds me of a Northeastern Atlanta in respect to black culture / heritage, NYC is more cosmopolitan.

Detroit may have the culture but lacks the economic standards most of the other metros have. I personally would rather Boston over it. Culture alone isn't everything.
Detroit has its issues, but I vehemently disagree with putting Boston over it.
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Old 07-11-2020, 12:07 PM
 
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I would rank the cities as follows:

1. Chicago
2. Philadelphia
3. NYC only (strong no to NJ and CT)
4. Los Angeles
5. Detroit
6. St. Louis
7. Bay Area
8. Boston
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Old 07-11-2020, 12:12 PM
 
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I would rank the cities as follows:

1. Chicago
2. Philadelphia
3. NYC only (strong no to NJ and CT)
4. Los Angeles
5. Detroit
6. St. Louis
7. Bay Area
8. Boston
Why NYC only and a strong no to NJ? I’m only asking because some of the best places in the metro are in NJ and outside of the city.

Technically, CT isn’t in the NYC metro, but a small portion of PA is.

As for other, while it isn’t big, but it is in the top 100, the Poughkeepsie-Newburgh-Middletown metro area meets a lot of criteria at a high level. It is one of the most residentially integrated metros, it has one of the smallest per capital income gaps between blacks and whites(also good for other groups), its black metro median household income is behind only a few top 100 metros, its proximity to employment centers in NYC via the Metro-North lines also for access to higher paying jobs; there are black residents in substantial numbers in urban, suburban and rural communities in the metro, there is political representation in multiple communities in the metro and schools are generally good and diverse.

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