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View Poll Results: which city is better don't be bias
Los angeles 27 36.99%
chicago 46 63.01%
Voters: 73. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-13-2011, 12:27 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Not nearly at the same level, and that's not the point of your argument.
u dont even know the point of the argument. point is, there is the reason for the population loss (the reason why the census didnt count them may be the same reason so many people are moving out). LA isnt having that problem.
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Old 03-13-2011, 01:27 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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so now my question is why are so many people leaving chicago.
In fair part becuase we tore down miles of public housing high-rises. L.A. is welcome to claim the former residents if you'd like 'em.
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Old 03-13-2011, 01:30 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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u got fellow chicagoans on another thread bragging about those same residents, and how they made chicago the murder capital.
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Old 03-13-2011, 01:35 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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Great -- so go ahead and claim 'em. If you'd like to compete for that title, it'll work out well for you.
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Old 03-13-2011, 01:41 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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u got fellow chicagoans on another thread bragging about those same residents, and how they made chicago the murder capital.
In this thread we have you attacking everything.
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Old 03-14-2011, 12:09 PM
 
Location: Outside of Los Angeles
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It always amazes me how people always talk about the weather when it comes to LA. The better weather argument isn't necessarily true. It just depends on what someone is looking for. What may be better for one person isn't better for another person. It seems to me that there are certain people who will automatically say LA is better than Chicago because the weather's better and the beaches are nicer. The weather may be more mild but you end up paying the price for it. We currently have the 2nd worst air quality behind only Bakersfield. That's not something to be proud of is it? The air quality here in LA leads to people having allergy issues and that's something I have. Breathing the air here isn't good for your health no matter how sunny and mild the weather may be. The better weather argument is laughable IMO. Is it mild compared to Chicago? Of course it is more mild, that's obvious. Better? That's for each person to decide.

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Old 03-14-2011, 03:03 PM
 
Location: Washington, DC NoVA
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In fair part becuase we tore down miles of public housing high-rises. L.A. is welcome to claim the former residents if you'd like 'em.
i don't know how public housing works but why knock them down? are they going to replace them with houses? can't they fix them up a little and raise rent a little? co-op city survived, the soundview pj's in the bronx survived, they just became a little more expensive so now the working more blue collar man can still afford them, they're a little nicer, but the "lowlife" population couldn't make rent and left and left the area reasonably priced for the city they're in. i personally think most of the bronx has done great in not overdoing gentrification. that could change but i really don't see the bronx getting to the point brooklyn has at all.

and as not so great and boxy as these pj's are, i still think they make cities like ny and chicago look like ny and chicago.
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Old 03-14-2011, 07:20 PM
 
Location: roaming gnome
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i don't know how public housing works but why knock them down? are they going to replace them with houses? can't they fix them up a little and raise rent a little? co-op city survived, the soundview pj's in the bronx survived, they just became a little more expensive so now the working more blue collar man can still afford them, they're a little nicer, but the "lowlife" population couldn't make rent and left and left the area reasonably priced for the city they're in. i personally think most of the bronx has done great in not overdoing gentrification. that could change but i really don't see the bronx getting to the point brooklyn has at all.

and as not so great and boxy as these pj's are, i still think they make cities like ny and chicago look like ny and chicago.
It is based on studies to not concentrate so much poverty in one area. In turn, Section 8 is allowed in more places, I believe even places like Presidential Towers will take section 8 housing. There are plenty of vacant houses and room in Chicago, knocking those down didn't effect too much.
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Old 03-14-2011, 08:59 PM
 
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Unfortunately C-D isn't a representation of what people in the real world think. In the real world, LA is seen as a much better place to be.

Let's see.... in the past 10 years,

Chicago's population DROPPED BY 200,000

LA's grew by nearly 100,000.

And Chicagoans in LA far outnumber Los Angelenos in Chicago. Hmmm. I wonder why.

LA is a far more desirable city than cold miserable Chicago.
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Old 03-14-2011, 10:11 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Unfortunately C-D isn't a representation of what people in the real world think. In the real world, LA is seen as a much better place to be.

Let's see.... in the past 10 years,

Chicago's population DROPPED BY 200,000

LA's grew by nearly 100,000.

And Chicagoans in LA far outnumber Los Angelenos in Chicago. Hmmm. I wonder why.

LA is a far more desirable city than cold miserable Chicago.
Of course, what you fail to mention is that L.A. has been experiencing net domestic out-migration, or at best stagnation, for the last 2 decades or so. If your city weren't sitting right on the Mexican border, it too would most likely be experiencing population loss. I suppose then what that means is L.A. is seen as a desirable place by economically marginalized and marginally educated third-world immigrants. Perhaps because it reminds them so much of home.
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