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View Poll Results: Pittsburgh or Cleveland?
Pittsburgh 162 63.53%
Cleveland 93 36.47%
Voters: 255. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12-22-2008, 11:34 PM
 
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No contest Cleveland all the way. Pittsburgh has a huge lack of diversity, and people talk funny. Cleveland has many affluent suburbs where as Pitt falls stagnant. Pitt may have more buildings and a stronger economy but Cleveland has the culture and class. No contest.
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Old 12-23-2008, 12:10 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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No contest Cleveland all the way. Pittsburgh has a huge lack of diversity, and people talk funny. Cleveland has many affluent suburbs where as Pitt falls stagnant. Pitt may have more buildings and a stronger economy but Cleveland has the culture and class. No contest.
It's moronic statements like this that earn you disrespect in this forum. To say that there is no contest testifies that you are too biased to make an informed decision.
(1) Huge lack of diversity. I'm not sure where you got this one. Your reasoning seems to be this: since Pittsburgh has a lower percentage of blacks than Cleveland Pittsburgh is therefore lacking in diversity. Pittsburgh has 20% German, 16% Italian, 12% Irish in the metro, with 27% Black and nearly 3% Asian in the city proper. The city also has large percentages of Polish and English with the fifth largest Ukranian community in the country, and some of the largest Croatian, Serbian, Slovenian and Slovak populations.
(2) They Talk Funny. In case you haven't figured this out, everyone has an accent. BTW, I've never heard of anyone detract from NYC because they think the Brooklyn accent is annoying.
(3) Cleveland's Many Affluent Suburbs. What world do you live in? Ever hear of Sewickley? Sewickley Heights? Fox Chapel? Ben Avon? Mt. Lebanon? Franklin Park? Cranberry? Bradford Woods? North Park? Never hear of any of these very wealthy suburban areas? In fact, Sewickley Heights used to be the richest area in the country, long ago.
Additionally, Allegheny West was called Millionaires Row because it was one of the nations wealthiest neighborhoods at one time. Other city neighborhoods like Shadyside and North Oakland are extremely affluent.
BTW, who really cares?
(4) Culture and Class. Again, you must not be aware that Pittsburgh is head and shoulders above Cleveland in higher education...I'm sure you can't find any culture or class there!

If you ask me, Cleveland especially loses out because it's architecture is incomparible to Pittsburgh's. Pittsburgh has everything from modern gothic glass skyscrapers to old solid brownstone townhouses and banks to industrialists' manisions to a core filled with quiant old row houses to houses erected before Cleveland was even founded! Walking through some of Pittsburgh's narrow row-house-lined streets reminds me of strolling through Europe. Pittsburgh has fantastic structural density.

Need I state the humor in the fact that Pittsburgh is currently beating Cleveland on this poll by over 43%, and yet, according to you, Cleveland wins without a contest.
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Old 12-23-2008, 04:54 AM
 
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It's moronic statements like this that earn you disrespect in this forum. To say that there is no contest testifies that you are too biased to make an informed decision.
(1) Huge lack of diversity. I'm not sure where you got this one. Your reasoning seems to be this: since Pittsburgh has a lower percentage of blacks than Cleveland Pittsburgh is therefore lacking in diversity. Pittsburgh has 20% German, 16% Italian, 12% Irish in the metro, with 27% Black and nearly 3% Asian in the city proper. The city also has large percentages of Polish and English with the fifth largest Ukranian community in the country, and some of the largest Croatian, Serbian, Slovenian and Slovak populations.
(2) They Talk Funny. In case you haven't figured this out, everyone has an accent. BTW, I've never heard of anyone detract from NYC because they think the Brooklyn accent is annoying.
(3) Cleveland's Many Affluent Suburbs. What world do you live in? Ever hear of Sewickley? Sewickley Heights? Fox Chapel? Ben Avon? Mt. Lebanon? Franklin Park? Cranberry? Bradford Woods? North Park? Never hear of any of these very wealthy suburban areas? In fact, Sewickley Heights used to be the richest area in the country, long ago.
Additionally, Allegheny West was called Millionaires Row because it was one of the nations wealthiest neighborhoods at one time. Other city neighborhoods like Shadyside and North Oakland are extremely affluent.
BTW, who really cares?
(4) Culture and Class. Again, you must not be aware that Pittsburgh is head and shoulders above Cleveland in higher education...I'm sure you can't find any culture or class there!

If you ask me, Cleveland especially loses out because it's architecture is incomparible to Pittsburgh's. Pittsburgh has everything from modern gothic glass skyscrapers to old solid brownstone townhouses and banks to industrialists' manisions to a core filled with quiant old row houses to houses erected before Cleveland was even founded! Walking through some of Pittsburgh's narrow row-house-lined streets reminds me of strolling through Europe. Pittsburgh has fantastic structural density.

Need I state the humor in the fact that Pittsburgh is currently beating Cleveland on this poll by over 43%, and yet, according to you, Cleveland wins without a contest.

Welcome to city data.com. The place where 13 year olds who never left there city come to trash other cities they have no idea about. I bet that dude has never even been to any Pittsburgh neighborhoods in his life.
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Old 12-23-2008, 05:58 AM
 
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LOL That guy said people from Pittsburgh talk funny. Ever heard a heavy Ohio-an accent? They're about as annoying as any yinzer, except more annoying.
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Old 12-23-2008, 06:53 PM
 
Location: Cleveland
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LOL That guy said people from Pittsburgh talk funny. Ever heard a heavy Ohio-an accent? They're about as annoying as any yinzer, except more annoying.
Can you explain to me what an "Ohio-an accent" is? Does it apply to NE Ohio?

I grew up in NE Ohio but have been many places throughout the US, and noone has ever mentioned even once that I have an "Ohio-an" accent. The only thing that people have said is different words I use that arent used in some other areas. For example I was in NYC for some time and spoke to many people, and none of them ever mentioned anything about an accent. Im just trying to get to the bottom of this, because noone else including me has ever noticed anything.
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Old 12-23-2008, 06:57 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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Can you explain to me what an "Ohio-an accent" is? Does it apply to NE Ohio?

I grew up in NE Ohio but have been many places throughout the US, and noone has ever mentioned even once that I have an "Ohio-an" accent. The only thing that people have said is different words I use that arent used in some other areas. For example I was in NYC for some time and spoke to many people, and none of them ever mentioned anything about an accent. Im just trying to get to the bottom of this, because noone else including me has ever noticed anything.
I believe Cleveland is part of the Northern Dialect. This, of course isn't unique to northern Ohio, but it is still an accent. Additionally, American accents have blended together enough that most people from the North speak the same way.
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Old 02-12-2009, 10:53 AM
 
Location: Just East of the Southern Portion of the Western Part of PA
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Is this thread really serious?

Pittsburgh > Cleveland.

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Old 02-12-2009, 10:54 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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Old 02-12-2009, 12:31 PM
 
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I think people in Ohio have nasal voices and a kind of silly way of talking.Not silly in a mean way, just exaggerated like something from Fargo. It was very noticeable to me when I was in Cleveland. Even though it is pretty close geographically, the accent is more like something from Michigan where Pittsburgh is more Eastern/Southern sounding. (like the Baltimore accent). Which I find almost as unattractive, honestly.
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Old 02-12-2009, 12:32 PM
 
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Fargo the movie, I mean.
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