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View Poll Results: Pittsburgh or Cleveland?
Pittsburgh 162 63.53%
Cleveland 93 36.47%
Voters: 255. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-19-2008, 12:51 PM
 
Location: Tampa Bay
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I'm surprised at the tally so far. Though Cleveland never bothered to develop their lake front, and im sure crime and decay might factor in to the equation for some. I'm still surprised that Pittsburgh is leading in this poll. Someone make a Pittsburgh vs Cincinnati poll, and a Pittsburgh vs Columbus poll too. I'm curious to see how those would turn out.
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Old 08-19-2008, 01:09 PM
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Two regions w/dead economies and high taxes...and difficulty attracting/retaining well-educated younger professionals...

Pitt is distinguished by having Carnegie-Mellon, an excellent school for computer science w/many prominent alums....many of whom seem to have chosen to work/live in SiliconValley...

Cleveland's jobs are dominated by the healthcare industry...tend to view CleveClinic as highly overrated...rest of region's universities are fairly weak...
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Old 08-19-2008, 02:53 PM
 
Location: RVA
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Two regions w/dead economies and high taxes...and difficulty attracting/retaining well-educated younger professionals...

Pitt is distinguished by having Carnegie-Mellon, an excellent school for computer science w/many prominent alums....many of whom seem to have chosen to work/live in SiliconValley...

Cleveland's jobs are dominated by the healthcare industry...tend to view CleveClinic as highly overrated...rest of region's universities are fairly weak...
The economy in Pittsburgh is hardly dead. It's also one of the few cities in the country where real estate values continue to climb.
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Old 08-19-2008, 07:26 PM
 
Location: Cleveland Suburbs
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Two regions w/dead economies and high taxes...and difficulty attracting/retaining well-educated younger professionals...

Pitt is distinguished by having Carnegie-Mellon, an excellent school for computer science w/many prominent alums....many of whom seem to have chosen to work/live in SiliconValley...

Cleveland's jobs are dominated by the healthcare industry...tend to view CleveClinic as highly overrated...rest of region's universities are fairly weak...

Sorry, but Cleveland's tech companies are begging for new employees. And The Clinic overrated? Thats a first...

And Case Western a weak university? Interesting.....

Not to mention, the healthcare industry is recession proof.
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Old 08-19-2008, 07:58 PM
 
Location: 2 blocks from bay in L.I, NY
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Besides football, why is there a rivalry between Pittsburgh and Cleveland? I've been to Cleveland and there's no contest. It's flat and, for being next to Lake Erie, surprisingly ugly. It has the most charmless downtown outside of Atlanta and did I mention how flat it is? Which do you prefer, and why?


It would be nice if the only people who reply to this are people who have actually been to both cities.



hi,

I've been to both but have spent time only in Pittsburgh (albeit very briefly) visiting a friend who moved there. I have to agree with your assessment regarding topography of the two. I love mountains and natural beauty. Pittsburgh has that - Cleveland doesn't. Also, Pittsburgh is in a beautiful state, PA, while Cleveland is in Ohio which is flat, bland, and uninteresting landscape for the most part. For that reason I prefer Pittsburgh.
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Old 08-19-2008, 08:24 PM
 
Location: Cleveland Suburbs
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hi,

I've been to both but have spent time only in Pittsburgh (albeit very briefly) visiting a friend who moved there. I have to agree with your assessment regarding topography of the two. I love mountains and natural beauty. Pittsburgh has that - Cleveland doesn't. Also, Pittsburgh is in a beautiful state, PA, while Cleveland is in Ohio which is flat, bland, and uninteresting landscape for the most part. For that reason I prefer Pittsburgh.

Wow, that is so un true. I am really tired of reading posts like this. Cincinnati is the hilliest city in the Midwest, and Hocking Hills State Park has some of the best waterfalls east of the Mississippi. Cuyahoga Nat'l Park just outside of Cleveland also proves your theory on Ohio wrong.

Hocking Hills State Park
by Joe Braun


More Hocking Hills
Jack Everetts at praktica


Old Man's Gorge in Hocking Hills





Cuyahoga Nat'l Park, 30 Minutes from Downtown Cleveland
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Beautiful Cincinnati




by ebbandphlow
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Old 08-19-2008, 09:30 PM
 
Location: RVA
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Wow, that is so un true. I am really tired of reading posts like this. Cincinnati is the hilliest city in the Midwest, and Hocking Hills State Park has some of the best waterfalls east of the Mississippi. Cuyahoga Nat'l Park just outside of Cleveland also proves your theory on Ohio wrong.

Hocking Hills State Park
by Joe Braun


More Hocking Hills
Jack Everetts at praktica


Old Man's Gorge in Hocking Hills





Cuyahoga Nat'l Park, 30 Minutes from Downtown Cleveland
by goingsolo


Beautiful Cincinnati




by ebbandphlow
Wow. I knew Ohio wasn't flat, regardless of what I said about central Cleveland. I really want to go to Cincinnati, it seems like the closest in topography to Pittsburgh. That would probably be a better poll. I don't see Cleveland and Pittsburgh having much in common except their football rivalry and the stupid "Rust Belt" tag.
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Old 08-19-2008, 09:33 PM
 
Location: Cleveland Suburbs
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Wow. I knew Ohio wasn't flat, regardless of what I said about central Cleveland. I really want to go to Cincinnati, it seems like the closest in topography to Pittsburgh. That would probably be a better poll. I don't see Cleveland and Pittsburgh having much in common except their football rivalry and the stupid "Rust Belt" tag.

Exactly. Do you go to SSP at all? Cincy and Pittsburgh are always getting compared there.

Cleveland is more on a level with Baltimore or Milwaukee, while Pittsburgh with Cincinnati.

For the photos of Cincinnati, I didn't get any from the Riverfront which are my favorite views. Those ones are from Mount Adams, just showing off the hills of the city.

The Pittsburgh of the Midwest:
cincinnati Photo Gallery by Jayson at pbase.com
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Old 08-19-2008, 09:49 PM
 
Location: RVA
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Exactly. Do you go to SSP at all? Cincy and Pittsburgh are always getting compared there.

Cleveland is more on a level with Baltimore or Milwaukee, while Pittsburgh with Cincinnati.

For the photos of Cincinnati, I didn't get any from the Riverfront which are my favorite views. Those ones are from Mount Adams, just showing off the hills of the city.

The Pittsburgh of the Midwest:
cincinnati Photo Gallery by Jayson at pbase.com
I want to join SSP, but I don't have a valid email that isn't a free one. I have to wait about a week to get my internet when I move...I use the landlord's FiOS right now.
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Old 08-20-2008, 11:01 AM
 
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I nearly have orgasms when thinking about Pittsburgh's skyline.
Whoa. TMI -- Too much information.


Cleveland vs. Pittsburgh -- it doesn't matter. Neither has jobs.

Those folks who say there are jobs in Pittsburgh, please contact me -- I need one.
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