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Old 08-10-2008, 10:39 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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San Diego is considered a conservative city and people seem to like us, but it's more moderate than anything else. The northern suburbs are conservative which tends to swing the county right in most elections.

also please do not associate the terms/words "open minded, accepting, tolerant, diverse" with liberal cities or liberals b/c it's BS many times. A city where 97% of the electorate votes for John Kerry is hardly "diverse", i.e. Berkeley, Ca.
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Old 08-11-2008, 01:12 AM
 
Location: Underneath the Pecan Tree
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What an ignorant and elitist statement. Have you been to any of the places I listed?
He lives in NYC. case closed.
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Old 08-11-2008, 02:46 AM
 
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Colorado Springs, CO
Salt Lake City, UT
Oklahoma City, OK
Tulsa, OK
Little Rock, AR
Virginia Beach, VA
Wichita, KS

The one thing all these cities have in common is they are all known for being conservative cities. You never see anybody mention these places unless its something negative yet the Seattles and Austins get nothing but praise. All of these cities have a lot to offer, yet get no respect especially on this forum. Why is this? Do conservatives really bother people so much they can't look beyond their elitism into what these cities really offer, or are these places just that bad?

P.S. I probably left some cities off this list that should be included. Feel free to add some.
I'll go with what another poster said, that liberal cities are naturally more entertaining.

Think of it this way, will a place like Salt Lake City with its high Mormon population and strict liquor laws ever have an active nightlife and bar scene? Will cities with high percentages of practicing Southern Baptists ever have a great live music scene? Will cities primarily made up of white middle class families ever have the attractions and activities people like to partake in on vacations? Excepting theme parks.

Not really. That is why people like the big cities mentioned and often leave out their suburbs and conservative cities. While Orange County or Virginia Beach seem like nice places if you have a family and stable job that earns a fair amount of money, they really don't have party atmosphere or weirdness that people enjoy in their youth and when they are on vacation.

But good news for conservatives, liberals have become increasingly paternalistic and moralistic as well. In a decade or two you will probably see a lot more praise for cities like Oklahoma City or Tupelo because those will be the only places where bacon burgers are still legal and you don't have to be over 21 to buy drinks with caffeine.
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Old 08-11-2008, 05:20 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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I hope Houston dosen't become Liberal.
Hate to break the news to ya. Houston is already pretty liberal. Well more liberal than it is conservative.
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Old 08-11-2008, 05:41 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth/Dallas
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I would think it's because not a whole lot happens in any of those cities.
There is more going on than you think in OkC and Tulsa.

OkC has a new NBA team (name yet to be awarded), and Tulsa is putting the finishing touches on a new downtown arena that is world class (BOK Center).










The arena was designed by Caesar Pelli, the same architect that designed the Petronis Towers in Kaula Lumpur, Malaysia. The arena, which is scheduled to open at the end of this month has over 18,000 seats.

BTW, these pictures are not mine. They belong to this (http://www.flickr.com/photos/oilerfan/sets/72157606653726707/detail/?page=3 - broken link) person.

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Old 08-11-2008, 06:48 AM
 
Location: from houstoner to bostoner to new yorker to new jerseyite ;)
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But good news for conservatives, liberals have become increasingly paternalistic and moralistic as well. In a decade or two you will probably see a lot more praise for cities like Oklahoma City or Tupelo because those will be the only places where bacon burgers are still legal and you don't have to be over 21 to buy drinks with caffeine.
Haha! And don't forget we have liberals in California to thank for the smoking ban that has swept the nation (I say, as a liberal myself ).
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Old 08-11-2008, 06:48 AM
 
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Would the three militant conservatives and the three militant liberals please stop making sweeping generalizations about the citizens of this great country. You people are incredible; especially slinging mud at your perceived opposite for slinging mud at you! Grow up already.

MOST citizens in MOST cities in this country get along with everyone and anyone can fit in and find a niche anywhere in this free country. MOST people of ALL political and social leanings get along fine and once again I'd like to remind you that we are ONE country. Sheesh - get over yourselves. Stop being afraid of the liberals or stop being afraid of the conservatives and please don't bring your trash talk to this board, save it for the P&OC board where one expects to see such silliness.
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Old 08-11-2008, 06:51 AM
 
Location: from houstoner to bostoner to new yorker to new jerseyite ;)
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I consider myself pretty liberal, but I do not mock those who are religious, as I have religious beliefs myself. I do, however, take issue with the 'culture warriors' and those whose conservativism seems to simply be about protecting their own wealth, believing that they are an island, and to hell with everyone else. I tend to be a bit more community minded in my attitudes and that informs how I view the world. I find it interesting that you are so quick to assert that "all they[liberals] do is critcize conservatives beliefs and mock the religious people", in asserting that, aren't you falling victim to what you claim 'the liberals' do?
Exactly!

I'm a non-religious liberal and I don't mock people because of their religious beliefs or their conservative attitudes, they're just not for me. Can we please stop with the generalizations? In accusing ALL liberals of behaving that way toward ALL conservatives, you are no better than them when they do it to you!
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Old 08-11-2008, 07:00 AM
 
Location: from houstoner to bostoner to new yorker to new jerseyite ;)
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also please do not associate the terms/words "open minded, accepting, tolerant, diverse" with liberal cities or liberals b/c it's BS many times. A city where 97% of the electorate votes for John Kerry is hardly "diverse", i.e. Berkeley, Ca.
Agreed! I find any environment where I'm expected to conform to the prevailing public opinion oppressive and regressive, no matter whether it's considered liberal or conservative. Guess it's just my contrarian nature. Some so-called "liberal cities" are no better than conservative cities in that you are expected to toe the line and keep up with the status quo. It's only the issues that are different! Liberals care more about making sure everybody recycles and drives a Prius instead of investing your money and buying a house big enough for you, your spouse, and four kids, even though you have none, just because you can, like a lot of conservatives! . Honestly, though, it's a non-issue for me. I think you can readily find both types in any city large enough.

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Old 08-11-2008, 08:38 AM
 
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Colorado Springs, CO
Salt Lake City, UT
Oklahoma City, OK
Tulsa, OK
Little Rock, AR
Virginia Beach, VA
Wichita, KS

The one thing all these cities have in common is they are all known for being conservative cities. You never see anybody mention these places unless its something negative yet the Seattles and Austins get nothing but praise. All of these cities have a lot to offer, yet get no respect especially on this forum. Why is this? Do conservatives really bother people so much they can't look beyond their elitism into what these cities really offer, or are these places just that bad?

P.S. I probably left some cities off this list that should be included. Feel free to add some.
Those cities I bolded are the ones I've been to. None of them have anything interesting to begin with. It doesn't matter if they are conservative or liberal. Those cities are extremely dull, thus, there isn't anything good to say about them.
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