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Old 08-12-2008, 08:13 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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Chicago is home to 'electric blues' which was originally brought to the city from the south (the acoustic and harmonica based Blues that Memphis and Mississippi are known for) and took on a different form which is known today as the specific blues music that Chicago is indeed home to.

Chess and Alligator Records were and are home to a lot artists like Bo Diddley, etc.


Chicago blues - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Oh I'm not denying that Chicago isn't a great city for blues. I'm also not denying that they didn't add their own element to the genre. The black population in both Mississippi and the South is strong. Chicago is probably the biggest city outside the south to have a strongest connection to the south. That's probably why so many blacks in Chicago have that twang to them. I thought I was still in the south when I visited my family up there lol.

But when a Southerner especially ones from the deltas and backwoods of Mississippi and Memphis sees a comment saying that Chicago is the "home" of blues, they look at you like you are some sort of android and then simply laugh at you. Blues in the south goes back beyond the 20th century, Taboo. And the South's music history isn't just blues, Taboo. Where do you think Jazz came from? Don't say any other city but New Orleans.
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Old 08-13-2008, 08:02 AM
 
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Actually, that's kind of a good thing. We don't need people of your ilk here. We're trying to keep OK a secret so it doesn't get crowded with people.

Guess that's why the population of the two primary metro areas grows at a pretty steady rate (about 6 percent since 2000). About the same as Minneapolis. Which I have been to. And which ain't much either.
If you don't like Minneapolis that is your business. I was just giving the reasons why Oklahoma City, Tulsa, and others are boring. And what do you mean by "people of your ilk"?

Do you mean people who favor good roads, high education, less social conservatism, good beer, and a tranquil social atmosphere the type of person who shouldn't be in OK? If that is true then I should stay in Minneapolis because we've got all that and more.

And LOL @ the "we're trying to keep OK a secret" comment. You act as if you have any pull on how the government runs. You're just some dude. It isn't like you have any big say. Lighten up, guy.
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Old 08-13-2008, 08:47 AM
 
Location: OKIE-Ville
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If you don't like Minneapolis that is your business. I was just giving the reasons why Oklahoma City, Tulsa, and others are boring. And what do you mean by "people of your ilk"?

Do you mean people who favor good roads, high education, less social conservatism, good beer, and a tranquil social atmosphere the type of person who shouldn't be in OK? If that is true then I should stay in Minneapolis because we've got all that and more.

And LOL @ the "we're trying to keep OK a secret" comment. You act as if you have any pull on how the government runs. You're just some dude. It isn't like you have any big say. Lighten up, guy.
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less social conservatism
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Sorry, our social conservatism trumps the other items that you listed. Just messin'........maybe we could all lighten up.
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Old 08-13-2008, 08:48 AM
 
Location: St. Louis, MO
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First off, all the cities you listed are not that big, they were never that economically or industrially powerful, and the other reason I think they don't get any love right now is because our conservative president has done an excellent job of making conservatives look bad for our country. It's also probably the times.
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Old 08-13-2008, 09:16 AM
 
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The truth is, major cities have had a history of liberalism for a long, long time. Densely-packed urban areas are no place for rugged individualism. The sheer number of people packed into not a lot of space tends to lead to a more communal experience.

Public transportation becomes much more essential. Other gov't programs become more essential as well (from fire departments to pest control to street cleaning).

Cities also tend to attract new immigrants and young people, both of whom tend to lean a bit to the left. They become homes for the arts. That pulls in the lefties, too. Then it pulls in people who dig the progressive attitudes they see, and the whole thing becomes self-fulfilling.

The few cities that you've named as being conservative are somewhat smaller and less dense than many cities. They're in a pretty specific geographical area, for the most part, too. All of those factors probably simultaneously contribute to their conservatism and their lack of popularity.
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Old 08-13-2008, 07:47 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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I spent enough days in Tulsa and Oklahoma City to notice the crappy beer, ugly, cracked roads, meet people who'd rather stay at home than go out into the city, and I also saw this dull place called Bricktown.
Then if Tulsa's new BOK Center can't help it and Oklahoma City's bricktown or going pro basketball can't help it then what to those cities need to do? Like what needs to start happening to make you think, hey, I gotta move down there and be a part of what's happening? (Maybe for starters, they could abolish the 3.2% beer?)
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Old 08-13-2008, 07:52 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Because if a city is conservative, you scare away the creative class and inhibit economic growth, making it an overall crappy place to live. Also, who wants to live someplace where conservative christians try to micromanage your personal life?

It's not so much that people dislike conservative cities because they're conservative - it's just all the negatives that go along with it. Tulsa has very little positive about it.
Well, you can't deny that one big, big thing Tulsa has going for it is that the Tulsa County District Attorney has not tried banning sales or possession of magazines like Penthouse and Hustler since the 21st century began.
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Old 08-13-2008, 07:58 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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If you don't like Minneapolis that is your business. I was just giving the reasons why Oklahoma City, Tulsa, and others are boring. And what do you mean by "people of your ilk"?

Do you mean people who favor good roads, high education, less social conservatism, good beer, and a tranquil social atmosphere the type of person who shouldn't be in OK? If that is true then I should stay in Minneapolis because we've got all that and more.

And LOL @ the "we're trying to keep OK a secret" comment. You act as if you have any pull on how the government runs. You're just some dude. It isn't like you have any big say. Lighten up, guy.
What good beer, especially in Minneapolis. If I'm right the state of Minnesota can be just as damned backward as Oklahoma when it comes to beer because they got 3.2% beer there, too.
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Old 08-13-2008, 08:23 PM
 
Location: RVA
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Social conservatism will one day go the way of the dinosaurs, which did, in fact, exist.

I'm more libertarian than anything, but thank your local liberals for such downfalls of society as the end of slavery (Republicans, back when the Democrats were the conservatives) and the end of Jim Crow (ditto). Next up: Gays are people too!


I can't wait for the day when bibles (or korans...you people hate the moslems, but how different are they really?) are featured in museums as curiosity pieces. And spare me the "not all christians are backwards-thinking troglodytes"...I know that. I'm directing this at the average bible-thumping conservative. Your days are numbered.


Signed,

A native of Richmond, VA...conservative stronghold.


Edit- I also lived in San Francisco and Seattle and am no fan of humorless liberal types. So much for pigeonholing me.
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Old 08-13-2008, 08:43 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM - Summerlin, NV
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Yea Albuquerque is now one of them green cities! which is really neat! were also really conservative when it comes to water as well, too conservative.. saving up for the future, not like some other southwestern cities who have no conservation laws or acts toward water and waste it foolishly. We dont need that attention as long as we continue to keep up with the conservation here we know were doing something good for ourselfs to save us in the future!
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