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View Poll Results: Which city is better?
St. Louis, MO 79 67.52%
Indianapolis, IN 38 32.48%
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Old 06-29-2011, 05:07 PM
 
Location: Huntington Beach, CA
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That's quite harsh, don't you think?
Lived in one, visited the other many times. Neither have earned a place on my "must visit again by choice" list
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Old 06-30-2011, 09:18 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Ok, we must not be getting what I am trying to say here, so lets try again...

Where are links, facts, etc that say it is the largest on the planet, single-day event out there? Word of mouth is one thing, as is personal opinion, other than that, I am not buying that BS.
Well based on these websites it is:
World's Largest Sporting Crowds

Indianapolis 500: Largest Single Day Sporting Event in the World | The Indiana Insider Blog

I'll try to look for more credible links if I can find them.
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Old 06-30-2011, 09:14 PM
 
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Neither
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Old 07-01-2011, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Englewood, Near Eastside Indy
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Ok, we must not be getting what I am trying to say here, so lets try again...

Where are links, facts, etc that say it is the largest on the planet, single-day event out there? Word of mouth is one thing, as is personal opinion, other than that, I am not buying that BS.
There are 257,325 fixed seats at IMS according to this article:

USATODAY.com - Take a seat: Study puts Indy's capacity at 257,325

You add to that the number of people in the infield, and attendance swells into the 350,000 to 400,000 range. They don't manually count all of those people that file into the infield.

This snippet from the Washington Post referneces the 400,000 figure:

Washingtonpost.com: Indianapolis 500 Facts, Figures and Records

Here is a snippet from CBS Sports:

Crowd -- Estimated at up to 400,000. Speedway never discloses attendance but admits to more than 250,000 reserved seats in permanent stands and room for 100,000 or more in the infield.

2010 Indianapolis 500 facts and figures - Auto Racing - CBSSports.com Sprint Cup, Nationwide, Trucks

There is a lot of "BS" for you to sort through here.
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Old 07-01-2011, 01:03 PM
 
Location: Cleveland Suburbs
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There are 257,325 fixed seats at IMS according to this article:

USATODAY.com - Take a seat: Study puts Indy's capacity at 257,325

You add to that the number of people in the infield, and attendance swells into the 350,000 to 400,000 range. They don't manually count all of those people that file into the infield.

This snippet from the Washington Post referneces the 400,000 figure:

Washingtonpost.com: Indianapolis 500 Facts, Figures and Records

Here is a snippet from CBS Sports:

Crowd -- Estimated at up to 400,000. Speedway never discloses attendance but admits to more than 250,000 reserved seats in permanent stands and room for 100,000 or more in the infield.

2010 Indianapolis 500 facts and figures - Auto Racing - CBSSports.com Sprint Cup, Nationwide, Trucks

There is a lot of "BS" for you to sort through here.
Yeah, still not buying that BS...

Sorry to get off topic here, but weren't you the poster who downgraded Ohio in the one thread? I can't remember the name of it, just curious though.

Anyway, I have seen your posts, and to you Indianapolis and Indiana are the end-all, be-all of your world, so I guess it is expected from your posts to get into internet debates if people see the two differently than you do. I like Indianapolis a lot, it is home, but you sugarcoat it like there is no tommorow.

Just an observation. Now continue your flamewar.
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Old 07-01-2011, 01:04 PM
 
Location: Cleveland Suburbs
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Lived in one, visited the other many times. Neither have earned a place on my "must visit again by choice" list
Fair enough, but both are underrated.

St. Louis blows Indy out of the water in almost any category, though. Guess you just had a bad experience in St. Louis?
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Old 07-01-2011, 01:08 PM
 
Location: Fishers, IN
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Yeah, still not buying that BS...

Sorry to get off topic here, but weren't you the poster who downgraded Ohio in the one thread? I can't remember the name of it, just curious though.

Anyway, I have seen your posts, and to you Indianapolis and Indiana are the end-all, be-all of your world, so I guess it is expected from your posts to get into internet debates if people see the two differently than you do. I like Indianapolis a lot, it is home, but you sugarcoat it like there is no tommorow.

Just an observation. Now continue your flamewar.
Think of it this way - can you even find a sports venue that seats as many as IMS?
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Old 07-01-2011, 01:09 PM
 
Location: Fishers, IN
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Fair enough, but both are underrated.

St. Louis blows Indy out of the water in almost any category, though. Guess you just had a bad experience in St. Louis?
Do your research. Dinsdale loathes St. Louis, but I gather from another one of his posts that he hasn't lived here in roughly 20 years, so I wonder how long it's been since he's visited either city.
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Old 07-01-2011, 01:10 PM
 
Location: Englewood, Near Eastside Indy
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Yeah, still not buying that BS...

Sorry to get off topic here, but weren't you the poster who downgraded Ohio in the one thread? I can't remember the name of it, just curious though.

Anyway, I have seen your posts, and to you Indianapolis and Indiana are the end-all, be-all of your world, so I guess it is expected from your posts to get into internet debates if people see the two differently than you do. I like Indianapolis a lot, it is home, but you sugarcoat it like there is no tommorow.

Just an observation. Now continue your flamewar.
Not sure what your pot-shots are trying to get at. You asked for links, and I provided them. This in response to commentary you made about the Indy 500. If that constitutes me instigating a "flamewar," then so be it.

You asked for links, I provided them. Now you are taking shots at me. Whatever man.
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Old 07-01-2011, 02:16 PM
 
Location: Huntington Beach, CA
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35 miles is hardly what I consider far. I was never bored there and was pretty active in a lot of local activities. (sitting at a side walkcafe was not one of them, though - Dining and nightlife was pretty dismal, but St. Louis was only 35 miles away!) but if you insist....

I thought downtown StL was a hole compared to other cities I've lived in. Just my opinion.

Mississippi and Missouri rivers are horrible for boating, too.

too bad most local denizens of the St. Louis Metro Area won't venture more than 5 outside of their comfort zone.

I used to race in Indy. Eagle Creek Reservoir. Last time I was there for an extended visit was about 8 years ago. Stopped by for a short time last year.
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