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View Poll Results: Which city is better?
St. Louis, MO 79 67.52%
Indianapolis, IN 38 32.48%
Voters: 117. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-02-2011, 09:23 AM
 
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I'd like to attend the Indy 500, just to say I've done it, but I also don't associate car racing with high class or any kind of amenity. However, I know a lot of people do (white trash or not), so it's a pretty neat thing to have in your city.

I'd personally prefer St. Louis. I've lived there before though. It's a big city trapped in time and the rest of the world has moved on and it's stuck in 1980's mode or something (kind of like Cleveland). It was built to be a major city but the world economy had other plans for it. VERY cool city....VERY hot too!!!
There's nothing wrong with preferring St. Louis, Columbus, Cincy or any other city. It's when people make broad stroke statements and a lot of times, it's about a place they've never been, don't know the history, the culture, the amenities offered so on and so forth. Sadly Indianapolis is one of those cities since it's in Indiana and the common theme is what's in Indiana. There are a lot of transplants here and from what I can tell, they love it and from the ones I've talked to never realized what was here and what the city offers which surprisingly is a lot and they still have 3 billion in development going on or just completed just downtown as I sit here typing and about to add another 500 million or so with what they will be doing with the old Busch stadium heading into downtown that's about to kick off and that's in a recession. Of course Indy gets whatever it wants from the state while everyone else fights for scraps but I digress . St. Louis has to battle it out with KC for the states attention and the Ohio Cities have to battle it out for their slice of the pie as well but here, it's all Indy all the time and I think that plays a huge part in the differences between areas. Indy, Chicago, Louisville, pretty much will get what they want in terms of help from the state, states with multiple big areas like Missouri and Ohio, not so much, only so much to go around and you have to fight for every inch.
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Old 07-02-2011, 10:26 AM
 
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Sounds like someone is a little jealous. Let me ask you, how many 500's have you been to? Something tells me zero so how would you know what the 500 is like or the 400, or the MotoGP or any racing. Bottom line, if St. Louis could pull events like this off every year, trust me they would especially to pull it off several times a year with little incident. Just from a financial standpoint, it pumps so much into the local economy with the sale of hotel rooms, restaurants, shopping, parking that any city would if they could do it successfully.

For instance, STL has a huge MMA following but I personally think it's a disgusting sport as it only glorifies violence and the redneck beer gut mentality but that's just me. Unlike MMA, car racing indy car and nascar is actually big business.
you're right, st. louis couldn't possibly accommodate a big event.

what is mma?
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Old 07-02-2011, 10:28 AM
 
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you're right, st. louis couldn't possibly accommodate a big event.

what is mma?
mixed martial arts
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Old 07-02-2011, 01:14 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Hate to break it to you but the Brickyard is Nascar's highest attended event since it is the worlds #2 single day sporting event after the 500 and always sold out.
Is it really??? Anyway all I know is that it seems like most people here would rather have the F1 U.S. Grand Prix back than NASCAR.
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Old 07-02-2011, 01:28 PM
 
Location: Fishers, IN
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Is it really??? Anyway all I know is that it seems like most people here would rather have the F1 U.S. Grand Prix back than NASCAR.
I disagree. The F1 Grand Prix was a novelty at first, but the Michelin incident really sunk it here for fans. That said, I don't believe that the Brickyard 400 is the most-attended NASCAR event. That honor is still bestowed upon the Daytona 500. However, even with the attendance drop at the Brickyard, I believe it still comes in at No. 2.
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Old 07-02-2011, 01:40 PM
 
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I disagree. The F1 Grand Prix was a novelty at first, but the Michelin incident really sunk it here for fans. That said, I don't believe that the Brickyard 400 is the most-attended NASCAR event. That honor is still bestowed upon the Daytona 500. However, even with the attendance drop at the Brickyard, I believe it still comes in at No. 2.
Sorry to break it to you but it's not Daytona. Daytona is their most important, but IMS for one just holds more people than Daytona and both sell out every year. Daytona pays out the most, with the brickyard 2nd in that regard and probably the second most important race in Nascar now is the Brickyard behind the Daytona which it will never catch up with in terms of importance.
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Old 07-02-2011, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Fishers, IN
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Sorry to break it to you but it's not Daytona. Daytona is their most important, but IMS for one just holds more people than Daytona and both sell out every year. Daytona pays out the most, with the brickyard 2nd in that regard and probably the second most important race in Nascar now is the Brickyard behind the Daytona which it will never catch up with in terms of importance.
The Brickyard 400 hasn't sold out for a few years.
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Old 07-03-2011, 09:37 PM
 
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why anyone would tout the indy 500 as an asset is beyond me. white trash city.
because the Indy500 draws a much larger crowd from around the world to the event representing teams from other countries around the world while St Louis has NASCAR as the predominant racing event. IMS is also the world's largest sporting facility that could fit more people than both Edward Jones and Busch Stadiums combined in St Louis. St Louis does not have anything that large. There's no stadium in the country that could boast that kind of capacity..none.
Indy500 is basically an Olympic racing event held every year in the city. St Louis doesn't have an Int'l sporting event that big. NASCAR, Rams and Cardinals don't count. IMS established 1909 older than Boston's Fenway Park.
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Old 07-03-2011, 10:01 PM
 
Location: Silver Springs, FL
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NASCAR, Rams and Cardinals don't count.
To you, perhaps.
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Old 07-03-2011, 10:23 PM
 
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Are we really talking about which city has bigger attendance at sporting events?

Indy and the state of Indiana as a whole is the epicenter of college basketball. And now they're getting the Big Ten football championship too. That's enough for me.
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