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View Poll Results: Which city is better?
St. Louis, MO 79 67.52%
Indianapolis, IN 38 32.48%
Voters: 117. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-29-2009, 09:02 PM
 
Location: St Louis County, MO
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Downtown St Louis has come a long way, but it does still have a ways to go as far as activity on the street.

That being said, St Louis has wonderful neighborhoods - one of them being the one I proudly represent, Dogtown!
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Old 06-29-2009, 09:03 PM
 
Location: St Louis County, MO
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I feel safe in Indy, but I won't feel safe in St. Louis. It's full of murderers, robbers, hookers, everything bad you could think of. And it's the center of Neo-Nazi in America and they gonna kill me if I go there. I ain't that stupid to leave my sweet Hoosier home and go to such a "hell on the earth"!
I won't even justify this with a response. I think anyone with a level head and half a brain could see right through such an ignorant response.
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Old 06-29-2009, 09:04 PM
 
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Monument circle is a damn fine use of land in what I personally find to be an otherwise unremarkable city. There should be more works like it.
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Old 07-01-2009, 09:34 AM
 
Location: St. Louis, MO
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If my choices of Midwestern cities came down to these two, I would choose where I live now. I think St. Louis has more history, at one time it was one of the largest and most powerful cities in the country. Indianapolis I agree is more like Chicago in that it never truly suffered the effects of the Rust Belt like St. Louis, Detroit, Cleveland, and Milwaukee. St. Louis has ultimately more in common with those three cities I think than Indianapolis does. Indianapolis has a certain feel to it that St. Louis County does...it feels new, its growing, its architecturally similar..in some cases I thought of it as a much bigger version of downtown Clayton. St. Louis and Indianapolis essentially represent two different faces of the Midwest...the parts that escaped the Rust Belt effects/urban decay and the parts that didn't. But St. Louis is making a comeback, and its metro area is thriving. St. Louis also isn't a part of its county, a disadvantage Indy never suffered from.
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Old 07-01-2009, 11:47 AM
 
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St. Louis seems to be winning by alot here. I think that it is an older, larger, and overall better known/better publicized area than Indianapolis. Indy is a great town, don't get me wrong. But it doesn't seem to have the visibility of St. Louis. Closer comparisons for the STL area might include Cleveland, Pittsburg, Minneapolis-St. Paul, or Cincinnati. Closer comparisons for Indy might include places more like Columbus.

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Old 07-01-2009, 10:00 PM
 
Location: Fishers, IN
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Interesting thread for me because I live in Indy and have family in the St. Louis area. St. Louis' advantages include being an older, more established city. Its zoo is world-renowed, there's a lot of neat architecture and a bit more of an ethnic vibe. At the same time, the level of decay in some areas of St. Louis (particularly North City) is staggering, and the relationship between the city and county residents is at times toxic. I do like the light rail development there.

I think the corporate environment in Indy is better, and Indy's downtown is more vibrant. Indy has good neighborhoods as well, race relations are better here, and from what I'm told, it's less parochial than St. Louis. Indiana > Missouri, IMO. True, the Ozarks are beautiful, but when you get away from the major cities in MO (STL, KC and Springfield), you might think you're in Arkansas. Of course, Colts > Rams.
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Old 07-02-2009, 06:55 AM
 
Location: Englewood, Near Eastside Indy
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University City, MO is the only place in STL metro I could live.
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Old 07-02-2009, 01:51 PM
 
Location: St. Louis, MO
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Interesting thread for me because I live in Indy and have family in the St. Louis area. St. Louis' advantages include being an older, more established city. Its zoo is world-renowed, there's a lot of neat architecture and a bit more of an ethnic vibe. At the same time, the level of decay in some areas of St. Louis (particularly North City) is staggering, and the relationship between the city and county residents is at times toxic. I do like the light rail development there.

I think the corporate environment in Indy is better, and Indy's downtown is more vibrant. Indy has good neighborhoods as well, race relations are better here, and from what I'm told, it's less parochial than St. Louis. Indiana > Missouri, IMO. True, the Ozarks are beautiful, but when you get away from the major cities in MO (STL, KC and Springfield), you might think you're in Arkansas. Of course, Colts > Rams.
If you're talking about that for the whole state, you're badly mistaken. Not to mention, the Ozarks don't cover a very big portion of Arkansas...just the North Central and Northwestern portions. Arkansas lies much more in the Gulf Coastal Plain and the Mississippi Delta. Culturally and in terms of dialects are pretty much the same story...Missouri in the Ozarks becomes more like Arkansas the further south you go, less like it the farther north. Outside of the Ozarks, rural Missouri feels a lot like Iowa. Endless farmland with rolling hills. Culturally and dialectually in that part of the state. The only time in Missouri I've ever felt like I was in Arkansas and Kentucky was when I visited the southeastern portion of the state around Cape Girardeau. Southern culture, dialect, cotton fields, cuisine, was all incredibly prominent there...I felt like I was in Little Rock, Memphis, and Louisville. The rest of the southern half of the state for the most part just doesn't completely fit the definition of Southern, despite the fact that it does have obvious Southern influence.
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Old 07-02-2009, 02:42 PM
 
Location: Southeast Missouri
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I don't notice the southern accent much in Cape actually. I probably have it a tiny bit, though. But I don't think Cape's accent is the same as some place like Kennett.

Actually, our teacher in school used to make fun of people from the Bootheel and the way they talked.

I had an ITV college class and kids from Portageville and Sikeston had a more noticeable accent than us or fellow students from Piedmont and Ellington or Van Buren.
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Old 07-02-2009, 07:07 PM
 
Location: metro ATL
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Haven't actually visited either (hope to do so in due time), but Indy seems to be a bit more progressive than St. Louis.
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