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View Poll Results: Boston V.S. Atlanta
Boston 166 71.55%
Atlanta 66 28.45%
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Old 12-06-2008, 01:10 PM
 
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The irony of statements like the ones above from Peachtree is that
1. "Atlanta is race-driven and the populace is uneducated"
...YET...
2. "Atlanta is largely transplants"

I don't get that either. ATL's a city that's still in transition from small to midsized to major so the claim that this city is bigot heaven doesn't fit.
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Old 12-06-2008, 02:39 PM
 
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The transplants have been able to enjoy the efforts and work that Atlanta residents have done...I can't figure out why you would claim that transplants have built this city. But it seems to be the transplants and visitors from other regions who magnify race and are constantly trying to find or create issues when there are really very few compared to other large cities. A common misconception is that Atlanta is mostly transplants from the Northeast, when in fact Atlanta is mostly made up of people from Georgia and the South. There are a lot of transplants here, but it is nowhere near a majority.

The irony of statements like the ones above from Peachtree is that
1. "Atlanta is race-driven and the populace is uneducated"
...YET...
2. "Atlanta is largely transplants"




Some actual statistics on education levels in both Atlanta and Boston:

35% of Atlanta residents 25 or older have a bachelor's degree or higher, compared to 36% in Boston.

77% of Atlanta residents 25 or older graduated from high school, compared to 79% in Boston.
What Deacon (notice the Chruchy stuff) won't divuldge is that 'Atlanta' is virtually Blacks and yuppies and Gays. The average person does not move to 'Atlanta' proper. For any meaningful conversation on the area you must use 'the area' and not 'Atlanta' as most 'Atlantians' don't live in 'Atlanta'.

Deacons should be more honest, it's a virtue.
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Old 12-06-2008, 02:51 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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^This post smacks of racism and homophobia, as if those groups somehow don't "count" when discussing the population of the City. A City, I might add, that has gained over 100,000 new residents in the past 8 years.

For any meaningful conversation on the Boston area you must also use "the area" and not "Boston" as most "Bostonians" don't live in "Boston" either. As a matter of fact, both places pretty much mirror each other in that aspect.
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Old 12-06-2008, 05:44 PM
 
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What Deacon (notice the Chruchy stuff) won't divuldge is that 'Atlanta' is virtually Blacks and yuppies and Gays. The average person does not move to 'Atlanta' proper. For any meaningful conversation on the area you must use 'the area' and not 'Atlanta' as most 'Atlantians' don't live in 'Atlanta'.

Deacons should be more honest, it's a virtue.
See, that's your perception of Atlanta...and it just isn't reality. First of all, what exactly IS the average person? That in itself is all wrong.

Some people have a harder time seeing the actual diversity of a city because they are too busy focusing on the the people who seem to standout from the crowd or aren't the "average person". Maybe for that reason you are failing to see the other 90%.
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Old 12-06-2008, 06:32 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Or, they belong to that little but annoying clique of "Northeast Corridor Superiors" that have delusions that Boston really IS the HUB of the universe.

More South bashing..........
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Old 12-06-2008, 07:01 PM
 
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So, it was transplants who made Atlanta the city it is today? Makes sense. Transplants like Martin Luther King, Ted Turner (okay, not strictly a native Atlantan, but a Georgian from childhood), Maynard Jackson. Transplants. Yep.
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Old 12-06-2008, 08:27 PM
 
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Not only transplants that made 'Atlanta', but corporations who seem ever bent on not being within 'Atlanta' but surrounding cities, which are and have broken away from 'Atlanta', due to it's incompetence.

So, I'll ask from the Boston folks; are areas previously belonging to Boston breaking away? Because whole cities are doing this in Atlanta and rich ones at that.

And is it still the case that a metro 'Atlanta' county lost its school accreditation?

In short, while no city is perfect, Atlanta has some systemic problems that other places it's size do not. Hence, most 'Atlanta' people do not live in 'Atlanta' at all.
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Old 12-06-2008, 09:36 PM
 
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Well, as far as the number of people in the metro area compared to the population of the city proper, the city of Boston is a bit larger than the city of Atlanta, but they are in the same ballpark. The Atlanta metro area has a slightly larger population than Boston's, but they are in the same ballpark. Thus, the city of Boston represents a larger portion of the metro population than the city of Atlanta does in its metro area, but not to an overwhelming degree. The city/metro population ratios are similar. Both cities have relatively small populations compared to the total populations of their metropolitan areas. In Boston's case, this is largely because Boston has long been hemmed in by a densely populated urban core. The city has been unable to move into new territory, while the suburbs have spread out across land outside the urban core.

I don't know enough about Atlanta's situation to be familiar with the reasons that some suburban cities might be growing independent of Atlanta proper. Are you sure this is because of problems with the way the city is run? It is a nationwide phenomenon for metropolitan areas to be sliding away some from the traditional model of surrounding suburbs being purely bedroom communities whose residents almost all commute to work in the principal city. Metro areas have become complex webs, with people commuting in various directions between city and suburbs, and across the suburbs, for work, shopping, and entertainment. If you are seeing the growth of suburban office parks and shopping/entertainment complexes as a sign that the city of Atlanta has a problem, this may not be the case. The increasing diversity of activities in the suburbs is happening all over the country, as metropolitan areas become more complex places than the traditional city/commuter-suburbs model.
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Old 12-07-2008, 03:17 AM
 
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Not only transplants that made 'Atlanta', but corporations who seem ever bent on not being within 'Atlanta' but surrounding cities, which are and have broken away from 'Atlanta', due to it's incompetence.

So, I'll ask from the Boston folks; are areas previously belonging to Boston breaking away? Because whole cities are doing this in Atlanta and rich ones at that.

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1. There are no areas of Atlanta that have "broken away" from the city. A splinter group of disgruntled citizens got some press and made some noise, but there was no public support for their idea and it went nowhere. Couldn't think of anything else negative to say?

Which coporations have specifically moved out of the city or have clearly located in the suburbs due to "Atlanta incompetence"? The answer is: There aren't any. Sometimes corporations choose to locate in the city, and sometimes they choose to locate in the suburbs. This is a common occurrence. There are hundreds of companies with headquarters and/or operations in the city of Atlanta.


And is it still the case that a metro 'Atlanta' county lost its school accreditation?

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2. Clayton County School System lost its accreditation recently...Clayton is located in Metro Atlanta, but has absolutely no connections and nothing to do with the city of Atlanta. It's a totally separate system, as are Fulton County, Dekalb County, Decatur City, Cobb County, etc. By not being aware of a fact this simple, you have announced that you actually know nothing about Atlanta.


In short, while no city is perfect, Atlanta has some systemic problems that other places it's size do not. Hence, most 'Atlanta' people do not live in 'Atlanta' at all.

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3. I suppose the population statistics of Boston and Atlanta need to be posted again, for the hard of reading:

Atlanta City: 520,000 Metro: 5.6 million
Boston City: 608,000 Metro: 6 million

Those are some very weak accusations...if you want to disparage Atlanta I'm sure you can come up with something better than this. Your attempt consists of...bringing up old news that hardly constituted actual news; trying to somehow connect a completely separate county school system to the city; and pointing out the city vs. metro population difference even though both Boston and Atlanta match up almost perfectly - as do 100 other U.S. cities. You just really damaged your credibility...
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Old 12-07-2008, 10:37 PM
 
Location: RVA
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I've noticed something with this post, and it really doesn't surprise me. Boston people sit back and watch the Atlanta people get apoplectic because somebody disparaged their "city".
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