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View Poll Results: which city is the capital of the south?
Atlanta 555 53.42%
New Orleans 28 2.69%
Houston 113 10.88%
Dallas 41 3.95%
Miami 39 3.75%
Austin 8 0.77%
San Antonio 12 1.15%
Charlotte 34 3.27%
other 48 4.62%
there is no capital 161 15.50%
Voters: 1039. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-01-2009, 12:14 PM
 
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There were also thousand of people in downtown Miami, Fort Lauderdale, and West Palm Beach.

 
Old 01-01-2009, 08:28 PM
 
Location: metro ATL
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This area has about 3.7 million people right now and has one of the best housing and job markets in the country. Atlanta guess what city in Texas have been rank the best city to live in for so may years. This area has not even reach the tip of the iceberg for growth. all isaid if these area was in Ga. it would share the dominance of the state and the metro pop would probably be even.
Why do you keep acting like Austin and San Antonio are one big metro area when they are clearly not? It says something when you have to throw two cities together just to match Atlanta, and even then they still fall short. The only cities/metros in Texas that are comparable to Atlanta are Houston and Dallas--period.
 
Old 01-01-2009, 08:37 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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Why do you keep acting like Austin and San Antonio are one big metro area when they are clearly not? It says something when you have to throw two cities together just to match Atlanta, and even then they still fall short. The only cities/metros in Texas that are comparable to Atlanta are Houston and Dallas--period.
It looks like you and I are talking to a brick wall.
 
Old 01-02-2009, 07:05 AM
 
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Why do you keep acting like Austin and San Antonio are one big metro area when they are clearly not? It says something when you have to throw two cities together just to match Atlanta, and even then they still fall short. The only cities/metros in Texas that are comparable to Atlanta are Houston and Dallas--period.
Okay lets exclude any shopping in Cobb, Gwinnett and Dekalb counties. San Antonio and Austin shopping center are in one trade area. From my house in SA I can be at shopping center in Austin in 45 to 50 minutes.
 
Old 01-02-2009, 10:09 AM
 
Location: St Simons Island, GA
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[quote=imaterry78259;6798353]Okay lets exclude any shopping in Cobb, Gwinnett, and DeKalb Counties.[quote=imaterry78259;6798353]

Why would we do that? Are you saying that they're not in Atlanta's 'trade area'? Because they are, and a lot closer together than 45-50 minutes.

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Old 01-02-2009, 10:26 AM
 
Location: metro ATL
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Okay lets exclude any shopping in Cobb, Gwinnett and Dekalb counties. San Antonio and Austin shopping center are in one trade area. From my house in SA I can be at shopping center in Austin in 45 to 50 minutes.
Dude, Cobb, Gwinnett, and Dekalb are core counties of the Atlanta MSA. Bexar and Travis counties are NOT in the same MSA; hell, they don't even come close to bordering each other. And if you want to go the "trade area" route, then clearly Cobb, Gwinnett,and Dekalb (they border each other, as well as Fulton County, at certain points) are in the Atlanta trade area and there is no logical reason to exclude them at all.
 
Old 01-02-2009, 10:53 AM
 
Location: metro ATL
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It looks like you and I are talking to a brick wall.
I don't even think "brick wall" comes close.
 
Old 01-02-2009, 11:44 AM
 
Location: ITL (Houston)
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Okay lets exclude any shopping in Cobb, Gwinnett and Dekalb counties. San Antonio and Austin shopping center are in one trade area. From my house in SA I can be at shopping center in Austin in 45 to 50 minutes.
Why would you not include those counties? That's like saying we're not going to include Bexar County.
 
Old 01-02-2009, 12:36 PM
 
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I currently live in the Atlanta metro, but I grew up in the L.A. area. As an outsider, who really didn't have a dog in this fight ten years ago, I considered Atlanta to be the capital of the South. Here's why. There are other "southern" cities that rival Atlanta in size and significance, but none of them are in an unquestionably southern area. Yes, Texas is in the South... sort of. It's kind of South, kind of not -- a case can be made for it being in the South or for it being its own mini region. The same goes for Florida and Virginia. Virginia is kind of "South lite" and Flordia has become its own southern/east coast/quasi Californian frankenstate. Atlanta is the only city located in an unquestionably southern state that makes the shortlist for most important southern city. No one argues if Georgia is the "real" South or not. Everyone agrees it is. That's why I think Atlanta has to be the capital. Plus, it's home to Coke, which is indigenous to the city -- its airport is the world's busiest, it hosted the Olympics and it is the setting of one of the most southern books/movies -- "Gone With the Wind." Other things to note: it's one of the few places in the U.S. where you can get a direct flight to places like Moscow. You can currently view King Tut, exhibits from the Louvre and terra cotta soldiers from the first emporer of China in the city. Trump is building a tower there. Those of you who disagree -- just accept it -- Atlanta is "the" city of the South. It might be an ugly sprawling city, but it's the capital of the region nonetheless. Pretty much everyone agrees that San Franscisco, San Diego and Seattle are nicer cities than L.A., but L.A. is still the premier West Coast city and always will be. The same can be said for Atlanta in the South.
 
Old 01-02-2009, 02:01 PM
 
Location: ITL (Houston)
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I believe Trump is canceled, or on hold indefinitely. They painted over the sign and I believe the billboard was put down. The Atlanta condo/office market is saturated. But Atlanta is definitely "the city" in the South, excluding Texas and Florida.
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