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View Poll Results: which city is the capital of the south?
Atlanta 555 53.42%
New Orleans 28 2.69%
Houston 113 10.88%
Dallas 41 3.95%
Miami 39 3.75%
Austin 8 0.77%
San Antonio 12 1.15%
Charlotte 34 3.27%
other 48 4.62%
there is no capital 161 15.50%
Voters: 1039. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-28-2010, 03:50 AM
 
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if having the largest economy and being the most international was the number one criteria, why isn't houston the capital of texas? I'm stating this as a point that there is more to being a capital city than just the economic and social aspects. You can't ignore the political clout and central access to the population. this why i suggest atlanta, it has more political clout, political connections, and political history with antebellum south, civil rights south, and the new south than any of the 4 cities being compared.
Exactly. You basically summed it up right here. Dallas and Houston don't nearly have the same antebellum ties to the rest of the South as Atlanta does. People are in denial. Houston's influence goes as far as maybe Western Mississippi. Atlanta is AL, SC, NC, Eastern Miss, parts of North FLA, and TENN. And Dallas's influence is Northern Louisiana, OK, parts of AR, and North Texas. The answer HAS to be Atlanta.

 
Old 09-28-2010, 08:06 AM
 
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Since people want to knock out Houston and Dallas; we'll just eliminate Louisiana, parts of Mississippi and parts of Arkansas. Both Houston and Dallas have a great influence over these parts than Atlanta.

I'd say the state of Texas is Western south or south central, but a great majority of Texas is southern; including Dallas and Houston. Regardless of what people out East think; they probably think Texas looks just like Arizona or New Mexico.
 
Old 09-28-2010, 08:15 AM
 
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When all else fails everyone goes back to the culture/political argument. Now when someone starts going in on southern stereotypes, these same people will be screaming about how the south is a large diverse area and can't be "monolithic". Convenience is a *****.

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Oh, so Atlanta isn't southern now and Georgia doesn't have any southern charm?? If this was a "Capital of the South" thread there would be 46 pages detailing how Atlanta was the epitome of the south.
 
Old 09-28-2010, 09:50 AM
 
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I'm not arguing cultural or political I arguing geography, If you notice that the Texas posters arguing the same limited area
Houston: SE Texas, LA, part of Mississippi.
Dallas: N Texas, OK, AR, May part of TN
Well ok Atlanta: GA, AL, part of MS, part of TN, part of KY, part of FL, SC, NC, part of VA.

If the south is Virginia to Texas and Florida. Atlanta by far dominate MOST of the south. Imagine if Raleigh was 5 million and on pare with the southern big 4 it would have a very limited regional influence of the south itís to far to the edge, the Texas cities are in that actual boat! Here a population map to point out that the Texas cities are the edge. Then Texas cities influences "Dallas and Houston" overlap. No major metro over 5 mil is even close to Atlanta, Atlanta has a clear pretty large 360 influence of the south.


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...lation_map.png
 
Old 09-28-2010, 09:55 AM
 
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I just don't see how Houston or Dallas can be the capitals of the South. They really ARE too far West.
I don't really see how Atlanta could be capital of the south, it really is too far east. See how that works? kinda both ways. If we had a major city that was centrally located, then that would work.


Anyway, none of the cities command much of the region. here are zones of influence that each region casts on their area:

 
Old 09-28-2010, 10:16 AM
 
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I don't really see how Atlanta could be capital of the south, it really is too far east. See how that works? kinda both ways. If we had a major city that was centrally located, then that would work.


Anyway, none of the cities command much of the region. here are zones of influence that each region casts on their area:
LMAO That using every little city trying going by 5 million heck 3 mil.

Sorry but no Atlanta isn't, raliegh to far east, the south is VA to TX and FL, Texas is so far west and at the edge you would think Atlanta is too far east lmao and when you go by center of population it's even more stark look at the population map above. There nothing west of the Texas cities itís the edge like a ocean, Atlanta doesnít touch the Atlantic the Savannah area, the Charleston area does. And east of Atlanta is Carolinas. West of the Texas cities isn't the south what El Paso
 
Old 09-28-2010, 10:19 AM
 
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Dallas wouldn't even be the capital of Texas let alone this entire area. Texas has had 6 capitals, never once was Dallas chosen.

Heck San Antonio has more people than Dallas. Soon Forth Worth and Austin will have more people than Dallas. Dallas is nothing compared to Houston, the true power house of the south central region
You don't really believe this do you?
 
Old 09-28-2010, 10:34 AM
 
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This site has many different divisions of the USA. Like many of us have beensaying the South is so large it has been divided in many of these maps

This one divides it into 3 areas, and the 3 capitals are Houston, Tallahassee and Raleigh:
http://mattkirkland.com/pluribus/i/dinwiddle.jpg (broken link)

This one has the capital of most of the south as New Orleans:
http://mattkirkland.com/pluribus/i/thisland.jpg (broken link)
 
Old 09-28-2010, 10:40 AM
 
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LMAO That using every little city trying going by 5 million heck 3 mil.

Sorry but no Atlanta isn't, raliegh to far east, the south is VA to TX and FL, Texas is so far west and at the edge you would think Atlanta is too far east lmao and when you go by center of population it's even more stark look at the population map above. There nothing west of the Texas cities itís the edge like a ocean, Atlanta doesnít touch the Atlantic the Savannah area, the Charleston area does. And east of Atlanta is Carolinas. West of the Texas cities isn't the south what El Paso
There are more people living west of Houston and Dallas than there are living east of Atlanta. It is not the edge. Atlanta is just as far east as Houston is as far west. neither city is centrally located in the south. Here is a visual of the old confederate states:



again, there is no city that touches any massive portion of the south to be declared the capital. Not one
 
Old 09-28-2010, 12:28 PM
 
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This site has many different divisions of the USA. Like many of us have beensaying the South is so large it has been divided in many of these maps

This one divides it into 3 areas, and the 3 capitals are Houston, Tallahassee and Raleigh:


This one has the capital of most of the south as New Orleans:
Where are you getting these maps they're so funny by approximation they would never make any sense. And PS TX is often not include as the deep south, but dispute Atlanta is just silly.

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There are more people living west of Houston and Dallas than there are living east of Atlanta. It is not the edge. Atlanta is just as far east as Houston is as far west. neither city is centrally located in the south. Here is a visual of the old confederate states:

again, there is no city that touches any massive portion of the south to be declared the capital. Not one
There isn’t continuous density in west Texas to even be reprehensive of the south, east Texas gets a pass but west Texas lmao. But east texas gets a pass that makes the Texas Triangle cities are the edge of the south. Midland, Lubbock, El Paso, Odessa and etc the south?

West texas this is the south to you )
west texas - Google Maps

west texas - Google Maps

west texas - Google Maps

west texas - Google Maps


Do you know Houston is closer to San Antonio then Atlanta is to Savannah. But anyways Raleigh is as far as east as Houston is west going to Raleigh from Atlanta is little further than going from Atlanta to Memphis. Atlanta is like east central of the south but by no means Atlanta is east coast Pittsburg is closer to the Atlantic then Atlanta is. But the Texas triangle is straight up the western edge of the south. If you pay attention to maps the Atlantic ocean makes a crescent toward South Georgia. Atlanta is in like central northwest Georgia, most of Georgia and completely all of Carolinas are east of Atlanta. And NC isn’t vertical but it’s horizontal going eastward ROFL Again going to Raleigh from Atlanta is actually a little further than going from Atlanta to Memphis heck it‘s further than going from Dallas to Houston.

If North Georgia is too far east what heck is the Carolinians LMAO and, OMG Richmond is a little further east then Raleigh. And I’m not taking about northward I’m taking about eastward. But this bring me to the next thing not only is Houston to far west but it’s a Gulf city that like Louisville on the Ohio river. Memphis is call the midsouth it just as far from Atlanta is it’s from Dallas. By then this base on ideal that all of texas is the south LOL. Remember the south is east Texas to Richmond to Tampa “or Miami if you wish it doesn’t matter” The real center of south is like Birmingham. Atlanta is the closest city over 5 million to the center of the south.
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