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View Poll Results: which city is the capital of the south?
Atlanta 555 53.42%
New Orleans 28 2.69%
Houston 113 10.88%
Dallas 41 3.95%
Miami 39 3.75%
Austin 8 0.77%
San Antonio 12 1.15%
Charlotte 34 3.27%
other 48 4.62%
there is no capital 161 15.50%
Voters: 1039. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-03-2010, 04:15 PM
 
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Dallas is rather wimpy without the metroplex.
You've gotta be kidding me. Dallas is a city of 1.3 million and the Dallas-Plano-Irving metropolitan division has 4,326,384 people--that's without Fort Worth and Arlington. That doesn't look "rather wimpy" to me.

 
Old 10-03-2010, 04:21 PM
 
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You've gotta be kidding me. Dallas is a city of 1.3 million and the Dallas-Plano-Irving metropolitan division has 4,326,384 people--that's without Fort Worth and Arlington. That doesn't look "rather wimpy" to me.
I would say homerism at its best. Dallas may have Fort Worth and Arlington to help, but the Metroplex is run by Dallas. Same with Miami and SoFlo.
 
Old 10-03-2010, 04:27 PM
 
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You've gotta be kidding me. Dallas is a city of 1.3 million and the Dallas-Plano-Irving metropolitan division has 4,326,384 people--that's without Fort Worth and Arlington. That doesn't look "rather wimpy" to me.

LOL, I didn't say the Dallas side is whimpy, so adding the rest of the cities in the Dallas side of the metro only proves my point.

It is whimpy when compared to its metro.

It is 1.3M out of 6.5M what is that a little more than 20%?

I'd reckon that Dallas would be much like San Antonio without all the strength that the rest of the metro brings.
 
Old 10-03-2010, 04:30 PM
 
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I would say homerism at its best. Dallas may have Fort Worth and Arlington to help, but the Metroplex is run by Dallas. Same with Miami and SoFlo.
Miami, may be small in comparison to its metro, but Miami carries the bulk of the clout of its metro. So does Boston, so does DC so does Atlanta and other cities that do not command more than 40% of the population of its metro.
 
Old 10-03-2010, 05:50 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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I don't understand the constant belittling of the Dallas residents to Houston and Houston residents to Dallas all the time. BOTH are very important cities. BOTH are influential and BOTH have alot going for themselves. 1.3 million in 4.5 million people is significant anyway you slice it and Dallas is the primary city of that region. To say otherwise coming from a Houstonian is pure homerism.

I wonder if you have the same reservations for San Francisco which is a city of 800,000 in a metro of 7.2 million people. Also, yes, I am talking about Dallas so there is no error on my part. Irving, Plano, Richardson, Mesquite, Garland are all what they are because of their proximity to Dallas. You are right that it's command over it's metro is not as significant as it was 20 years ago. But it is still a significant part of the metro and still the most important drive of the metro area.

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Dallas does not compare to Houston in any category whatsoever.
Explain? What categories are you talking about?
 
Old 10-03-2010, 06:44 PM
 
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NC looks more towards ATL than it does DC. The Eastern half of NC looks more towards DC, but you must also take into account that Eastern NC is the least populated side, and the Western half of NC is more populated and definitely looks more towards ATL.
 
Old 10-03-2010, 07:22 PM
 
Location: metro ATL
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LOL, I didn't say the Dallas side is whimpy, so adding the rest of the cities in the Dallas side of the metro only proves my point.

It is whimpy when compared to its metro.

It is 1.3M out of 6.5M what is that a little more than 20%?

I'd reckon that Dallas would be much like San Antonio without all the strength that the rest of the metro brings.
If you're looking just as population, that's a rather silly way of looking at it as Dallas is in pretty good shape when compared to a lot of other major cities that account for a much smaller fraction of their metro population.

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Miami, may be small in comparison to its metro, but Miami carries the bulk of the clout of its metro. So does Boston, so does DC so does Atlanta and other cities that do not command more than 40% of the population of its metro.
I don't know what you mean by "clout" here, but if you're talking economics, then that is especially true of Dallas and less so for some of the other cities you mentioned. The city of Dallas is home to 12 F500 companies--three times as many as the city of San Antonio--while Plano and Irving together are home to an additional seven. That's pretty darn good, especially when you consider that the city of Chicago, for instance, is home to seven F500 companies, while the suburbs are home to 20. DC itself is home to four F500 companies, while the Maryland and Virginia suburbs are home to 14.

In other words, you're wrong.
 
Old 10-03-2010, 09:33 PM
 
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^ I'm beginning to think this horse we're beating is dead.
 
Old 10-03-2010, 10:51 PM
 
Location: Atlanta ,GA
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Not really; I'd actually say Dallas may be a little more influential in Texas than Houston.
I have said this from day one.I was stationed all over Texas,Oklahoma,New Mexico and Louisiana.I have friends in the region.Dallas by FAR is talked about more than Houston.Much like you said earlier.Houston always geographically and culturally seemed to distant.
 
Old 10-04-2010, 12:09 AM
 
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The city of Dallas is home to 12 F500 companies--three times as many as the city of San Antonio--while Plano and Irving together are home to an additional seven. That's pretty darn good, especially when you consider that the city of Chicago, for instance, is home to seven F500 companies, while the suburbs are home to 20. DC itself is home to four F500 companies, while the Maryland and Virginia suburbs are home to 14.

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Compare the number of F500 companies in any of those cities to the number in their metro and do the same for Dallas.

As for your comparison to SF, my answer is yes. It does get substantial help from Oakland and especially San Jose. The Bay Area is much weaker without them.
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