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View Poll Results: which city is the capital of the south?
Atlanta 555 53.42%
New Orleans 28 2.69%
Houston 113 10.88%
Dallas 41 3.95%
Miami 39 3.75%
Austin 8 0.77%
San Antonio 12 1.15%
Charlotte 34 3.27%
other 48 4.62%
there is no capital 161 15.50%
Voters: 1039. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12-28-2008, 11:45 PM
 
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Lets just say Atlanta is the capital of the south and, Houston and Miami are most diverse in the south even, more so than Atlanta. Is everyone ok with that?

 
Old 12-29-2008, 03:33 AM
 
Location: ITL (Houston)
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At street level without knowing the census data, I doubt anyone could identify differences in diversity ratios between Dallas, Atlanta and Houston.
Oh, I'm sure they can see a small difference when around the three different metro areas. Houston seems more "raw" than the other two with its diversity. Dallas and Atlanta are also more segregated.
 
Old 12-29-2008, 06:38 AM
 
Location: Whidbey Island, WA
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Oh, I'm sure they can see a small difference when around the three different metro areas. Houston seems more "raw" than the other two with its diversity. Dallas and Atlanta are also more segregated.
Yes, if you're going on a 'feel', you do sense a bit of difference between the three. Can't speak to the 'segregation' factor of all three cities, but Atlanta's suburbs are much less segregated that they were twenty years ago.
 
Old 12-29-2008, 07:45 AM
 
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Oh, I'm sure they can see a small difference when around the three different metro areas. Houston seems more "raw" than the other two with its diversity. Dallas and Atlanta are also more segregated.
No, Dallas and Atlanta have zoning regulations. Houston developers are allowed to build a greater number of units (apts, condos) on smaller parcels of land all over the city without consideration of the surrounding infrastructure. So what may seem like more segregated cities to you are actually the result of zoning.

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Old 12-29-2008, 08:31 AM
 
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Let end this by saying Atlanta is the capital of the SE region, the Piedmont region excluding, Texas, Arkansas, Florida and Louisiana.

Miami,
Tampa
Orlando
Jacksonville
Little Rock
New Orleans
Shreveport
Baton Rouge
Houston
Dallas
San Antonio
Fort Worth
Austin
El Paso
Corpus Christi
RGV-Brownsville/ Padre Island
Lubbock/Amarillo
OKC
Tulsa

Atlanta has no influence on these cities (ex Jacksonville maybe). If Atlanta never existed these cities would be thriving metros
 
Old 12-29-2008, 08:37 AM
 
Location: ITL (Houston)
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Yes, if you're going on a 'feel', you do sense a bit of difference between the three. Can't speak to the 'segregation' factor of all three cities, but Atlanta's suburbs are much less segregated that they were twenty years ago.
Yeah, Atlanta's suburbs have definitely changed, but it still feels segregated.

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No, Dallas and Atlanta have zoning regulations. Houston developers are allowed to build a greater number of units (apts, condos) on smaller parcels of land all over the city without consideration of the surrounding infrastructure. So what may seem like more segregated cities to you are actually the result of zoning.
What does zoning have to do with it? People still live wherever they want, and therefore, Houston feels less segregated than both Dallas and Atlanta.
 
Old 12-29-2008, 11:09 AM
 
Location: Underneath the Pecan Tree
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No, Dallas and Atlanta have zoning regulations. Houston developers are allowed to build a greater number of units (apts, condos) on smaller parcels of land all over the city without consideration of the surrounding infrastructure. So what may seem like more segregated cities to you are actually the result of zoning.
that makes no sense what so ever. What the hell does zoning have to do with a city being intergrated???
 
Old 12-29-2008, 11:22 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Actually you can notice a difference. In Houston I could walk around the corner and run in asians,indians,africans,whites,etc. I live in a predominatly black area of Houston, but the city is very intergrated and it is not surprising to see all types of ethnic groups living and working in one area. Diversity in Houston dosen't just happen in certian areas, you find it all around the city without even having to look for it.

I can say the same exact thing, with the exception that my area is not predominatly black - it's more of a mix of everything. And I live in DeKalb, which is hardly suburban in nature these days. This is considered an urban core County of Metro Atlanta (approx. 65% of DeKalb is within the I-285 loop). In most other metros, DeKalb would be considered "inner-city" by most measures.

As far as Miami-Dade being less diverse than DeKalb, I believe it and with a visit it becomes pretty obvious. Miami-Dade has nowhere NEAR the Asian/Indian influence we have. Not even close.
 
Old 12-29-2008, 11:26 AM
 
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Atlanta is acting like the newly rich. First time it has something it doesn't know how to act.
 
Old 12-29-2008, 11:32 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Let end this by saying Atlanta is the capital of the SE region, the Piedmont region excluding, Texas, Arkansas, Florida and Louisiana.

Miami,
Tampa
Orlando
Jacksonville
Little Rock
New Orleans
Shreveport
Baton Rouge
Houston
Dallas
San Antonio
Fort Worth
Austin
El Paso
Corpus Christi
RGV-Brownsville/ Padre Island
Lubbock/Amarillo
OKC
Tulsa

Atlanta has no influence on these cities (ex Jacksonville maybe). If Atlanta never existed these cities would be thriving metros
Yet again, you have absolutely NO idea what you are talking about. Atlanta has influence over a lot of these cities, but I realize talking to you about anything serious is like talking to a toaster.

Let me put this on a base level you may understand. Miami, Tampa, Orlando, Jacksonville, Birmingham, Nashville and New Orleans would fail without Atlanta due to the simple fact that the Federal Reserve Bank of ATLANTA supplies them with $$$$$. Does that help any?

And as far as Florida not coming under Atlantas influence, I suggest you rethink that one. Not one city in Florida can make any kind of move concerning anything related to the Federal Government without first running it by the regional honchos that are based in - Atlanta!

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