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obviously for different reasons. culturally, scottsdale and dallas are nothing alike. dallas and memphis share MANY southern attributes. i'm assuming you don't spend much time south of i-30? oak cliff could fit anywhere in the south
I wasn't trying to make a serious comparison there. Scottsdale is twice as far from here as Memphis. However, I disagree that Phoenix and Dallas are nothing alike culturally. Yes, there are historical differences, but present day Dallas and Phoenix have quite a few cultural similarities.
I guess you're saying that because Oak Cliff has a large AA population it could be in the south? Yes, I guess I can't disagree with you there. However, that's only one part of our city. The percentage of Dallas's population that is AA is actually declining if I'm not mistaken (I very well could be, but that's what I seem to recall).
the size of the receiving state has nothing to do with the outflow . the point is, more mississippians had texas on the brain than georgia
I will gladly concede that. Tie this in to the original theme of the thread. What in the world difference does the fact that Texas currently has a stronger economy and more employment opportunities than Georgia have to do with the state's regional identity?
Good lord, look how late it is. I've got to get to sleep. You make excellent arguments in support of your positions WestBankNOLA and AlGreen. I give you both a well-deserved reputation point. I always respect a well-reasoned argument, even when I don't agree.
I wasn't trying to make a serious comparison there. Scottsdale is twice as far from here as Memphis. However, I disagree that Phoenix and Dallas are nothing alike culturally. Yes, there are historical differences, but present day Dallas and Phoenix have quite a few cultural similarities.
the only cultural similarities i see between dallas and phoenix is the sunbelt "culture". aside from that, they're completely different, in my opinion
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I guess you're saying that because Oak Cliff has a large AA population it could be in the south? Yes, I guess I can't disagree with you there. However, that's only one part of our city. The percentage of Dallas's population that is AA is actually declining if I'm not mistaken (I very well could be, but that's what I seem to recall).
well i'm not saying that AA = southern, but it's not really by coincidence that blacker/poorer neighborhoods generally retain more of the southern culture. north dallas feels less southern because of all the transplants. simple as that
and both dallas and houston are experiencing rapid increases in their mexican populations
Good lord, look how late it is. I've got to get to sleep. You make excellent arguments in support of your positions WestBankNOLA and AlGreen. I give you both a well-deserved reputation point. I always respect a well-reasoned argument, even when I don't agree.
Good lord, look how late it is. I've got to get to sleep. You make excellent arguments in support of your positions WestBankNOLA and AlGreen. I give you both a well-deserved reputation point. I always respect a well-reasoned argument, even when I don't agree.
As much as I'd like to believe we have influence all the way to Alabama, I'm curious where you're getting this from. I have family in Arkansas and Mississippi. While Texas clearly has a lot of influence in Arkansas, I see none whatsoever in Mississippi. As far as my Mississippi relatives are concerned, we might as well be Arizona.
I moved to Charlotte NC from Austin. No kidding, I agree with this statement SOOO much. People who CURRENTLY live in Texas, have NO ideal of how WESTERN Texas FEELS in comparison to people here in the Eastern South. People out here(for the most part) view TX, somewhat how they would view a New Mexico or Arizona. I'm not saying it's like TX and AZ, but it's geographical positioning makes it seem somewhat foreign to the rest of the South. I personally think Texas is part of the area known as the Western South(with the exception of the Trans-Pecos Region, which is entirely Southwestern). Texas is "in" the South, but VERY different than the rest of the South.
You refuse to make life easy for me. LOL! . But, I'm not as familiar with that area as you are. So I'll be safe and give Houston the de facto Gulf Coast Capital city designation. Sound good?
If having the largest economy and being the most international was the number one criteria, why isn't Houston the capital of Texas? I'm stating this as a point that there is more to being a capital city than just the economic and social aspects. You can't ignore the political clout and central access to the population. This why I suggest Atlanta, it has more political clout, political connections, and political history with antebellum South, Civil Rights South, and the New South than any of the 4 cities being compared.
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