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I don't know how posters upload images, But this map here works without the line. just go north from Jacksonville. Look at Atlanta, then Jacksonville, then the NC coast. Starting in Dallas and ending at Jacksonville is kind of stooping short eastward. Jacksonville is the coast but it's not the farthest east you can go.
I don't know how posters upload images, But this map here works without the line. just go north from Jacksonville. Look at Atlanta, then Jacksonville, then the NC coast. Starting in Dallas and ending at Jacksonville is kind of stooping short eastward. Jacksonville is the coast but it's not the farthest east you can go.
I know this, but what's the mid-point for a horizontal line across the south?
don't know if everyone would go with that upland thing.
It includes, Illinois, Indiana, Pennsylvania, and it includes the deep south states Alabama, Mississippi. Nah that is just too broad. Might as well say that Alabama and Mississippi are in all the regions too.
Unfortunately, Htownlove doesn't get to decide what is and what isn't the Upper South. North Georgia and the rest of the Southern Appalachians have always been considered the US. I don't know why this is news to you. Those states you listed are the states that are solidly in the Upland region.
I agree that the green highlight was a little broad, but they got most of it right, and you are the one who cited Wikipedia has a credible source.
Valdosta isn't any closer than any major population center in south Louisiana. Doesn't the gulf coast vibe greatly diminish after Panama City, Tallahassee isn't on the coast and that's the closest city that would influence Valdosta.
It doesn't matter if it's necessarily closer than any major city in South Louisiana; it's close enough. There's definitely a Gulf Coast vibe in southwestern Georgia. You have to be familiar with the area to know what I'm talking about.
In lots of ways, I see San Antonio in somewhat of the same vein as New Orleans.
I suppose the biggest difference is that New Orleans is in a state often regarded as "Deep South". But at the same time? San Antonio has a strong element of Southern history...and even advertises itself as "A Combination of Old South and Old Mexico." Would that be all that much different with New Orleans as being "Old South and New France"?
Seriously, I am just asking opinions. This is not intented to be "ironic" in the least. I don't have a lot of experience in either city ....
In lots of ways, I see San Antonio in somewhat of the same vein as New Orleans.
I suppose the biggest difference is that New Orleans is in a state often regarded as "Deep South". But at the same time? San Antonio has a strong element of Southern history...and even advertises itself as "A Combination of Old South and Old Mexico." Would that be all that much different with New Orleans as being "Old South and New France"?
Seriously, I am just asking opinions. This is not intented to be "ironic" in the least. I don't have a lot of experience in either city ....
Good point. I think what often causes San Antonio to be disregarded as a southern city is three things:
1) It's culture and demographics are strongly tied to Mexico, and many folks always equate anything Mexican with the Southwest, which is a mistake. As I've stated before, Mexico has its relationship with the Southwest, and it has its own distinct relationship with Texas.
2) The terrain and topography of much of South Central Texas doesn't resemble most of the south, which is known for its pines.
3) The accents: it seems that very few native San Antonionians speak in what could be described as a southern accent. For the most part, the dialect in the area is very neutral, and many of the younger people even sound like they could be from California. It's a stark contrast from the unmistakenly southern speech of many natives of Dallas or Houston.
Good point. I think what often causes San Antonio to be disregarded as a southern city is three things:
1) It's culture and demographics are strongly tied to Mexico, and many folks always equate anything Mexican with the Southwest, which is a mistake. As I've stated before, Mexico has its relationship with the Southwest, and it has its own distinct relationship with Texas.
2) The terrain and topography of much of South Central Texas doesn't resemble most of the south, which is known for its pines.
3) The accents: it seems that very few native San Antonionians speak in what could be described as a southern accent. For the most part, the dialect in the area is very neutral, and many of the younger people even sound like they could be from California. It's a stark contrast from the unmistakenly southern speech of many natives of Dallas or Houston.
Everything you said is on point.
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