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View Poll Results: Houston, LA, or Chicago? for melting pot diverstiy.
Houston 27 19.57%
Los Angeles 56 40.58%
Chicago 55 39.86%
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Old 11-17-2008, 10:03 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles-213.323.310.818/San Diego-619.858.760
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Sorry its 4,018,080 residents. L.A. and S.F. have more represenations from different races.

L.A. climbs past 4 million - Los Angeles Times
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Old 11-18-2008, 09:29 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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Chicago has the second highest number of blacks, second highest number of Puerto Ricans, and like the third highest Mexican population. People from Houston have never seen a Puerto Rican before in their lives, so you can take that "Houston is more diverse" stuff out my face.
Do you have proof over this that Houston has not seen a Puerto Rican before in their lives or are you talking out the side of your neck? How about I mention the lack of Salvadorans in Chicago and tell you that you can take that Chicago is more diverse stuff out of my face. It can EASILY go both ways.
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Old 11-18-2008, 09:32 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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^4,300,000?? The current estimate is 3,850,000.


I like how people always fluff up their population estimates.


I'm actuallly surprised how LA, Chicago and Houston all seem to be almost equal in their levels of diversity of races, with Chicago and Houston having a bit of an edge on the spread of their populations.
I think he gets his number from the state of California and the city of LA. I think when census 2010 comes out, LA will be shown as a city with over 4 million people. I think I'd trust the state gov. slightly more because they deal with the state more than census does.
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Old 05-16-2009, 06:25 PM
 
Location: West Town, Chicago
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People love nationalism for the simple fact that they like to get riled up over something.
LOL! That is hilarious and probably true. Don't tell a Belarussian he is a Russian, or else get ready for a fight. Same goes for Sicilians and Italians.

Anyway, I don't know about Houston, but I cannot imagine any city except for maybe NYC being more culturally diverse than the Chi. It's a huge, hulking behemoth on the mid-continent, and it has served as the crossroads of North America for so long that it has collected a vast array of nationalities. They immigrate, develop enclaves within the city, make money, and then their descendants move out to the suburbs (see: Koreans).

I grew up in the western 'burbs, and my high school was just as diverse as, say, Albany Park (one of Chi's most diverse neighborhoods, located on the Far North Side)
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Old 05-16-2009, 06:47 PM
 
Location: West Town, Chicago
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Los Angeles wins, they have too much of everything...in a good way...
Last time I checked...
Houston and Chicago didn't have an offical:
Thai Town
Little Tokyo
Little Armenia
Little Phnom Penh
etc...
All of them are diverse, I just think LA wins...by quite a bit...
Well, does LA have...

Ukrainian Village?
Little Vietnam?
"Polish Gold Coast?"
Little India?
Black Metropolis?
Little Italy?
Little Arabia?
Greektown?
Swedish neighborhood?
Lithuania Plaza?
Irish neighborhoods?
Assyrian District?
Paseo Boricua (Puerto Rican Ave.)?


I'm really curious to know if LA has these things! I would like to know more about the city. Also, I am attempting to prove a point that Chicago is a lot more diverse than people may realize (heck, I'm willing to wager that most CHICAGOANS don't know this, since the city is so segregated--except for obvious Far North Side neighborhoods).
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Old 05-16-2009, 06:54 PM
 
Location: West Town, Chicago
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Perhaps that was to do with the reputation of the white man as a racist? Blacks and latinos can be racist not only to each other but to whites as well. Given that most whites are not racist, you have to understand that European history has not exactly been very nice to minorities in general. In ancient times, when the white man would show up in another country, murder, conquest and imperialism were knocking right at the front door.

So many countries with people of color are barely making it, while the descendants of their conquerors are living much better than they are. Many great empires fell because of Europeans and their American counterparts. More than likely if a white were to say that, he probably would be called a racist but that is due to the actions of his ancestors despite the fact that some whites have helped blacks throughout time.

But until we can learn to join together as a human race we can never say that we are truly progressing.
Oh please, as if white people are the only ones who have raped and pillaged throughout history. Should I tell you about the ancient Babylonians, or maybe the Assyrians, the Syrians, the Hittites, the Persians, the Turks, the various warring African tribes who sold each other into slavery to Arabs first and then whites, the Aztecs, the Mayans, the Incas, the Philistines, the Mohammedans, the First Nations and Native Americans, the Japanese circa WWII--who unleashed perhaps the worst barbarism and cruelty that mankind has ever seen at Nanking? I mean the list goes on and on. Imperialism is not a "white thing," it's a human thing.

That being said, Chicago is more diverse than Houston. LOL
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Old 05-16-2009, 06:58 PM
 
Location: West Town, Chicago
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That's a very true point. In Chicago most people live in neighborhoods that are fairly segregated. There isn't the outward hostile racism in Chicago, people just tend to stick with their own kind. Obviously is a hispanic person walked through a black area or an Asian walked through a white neighborhood people wouldn't freak out. Except gangs of course, but that's another story. Your average citizen isn't horribly racist even though on the face of it the city is totally segregated.

I lived in a neighborhood when I moved here that was 70% hispanic and 30% white. Then in a neighborhood that was 70% white and 30% everything else. It's fairly segregated.

The second I walk out the door though and get on the bus or the train, everything changes. The Red Line is like a crazy mix of anyone and everyone. Downtown where I work is full of all the different "people" going out their days. It's much more white than the city as a whole because hundreds of thousands of people commute on trains in from the suburbs, but overall it's very white, black, hispanic. Lots and lots of different languages.

So while the neighborhoods are segregated, people tend to live their lives in this dense city wandering around with a huge mix of people.


My current neighborhood is actually pretty diverse.

White 43%
Black 22%
Hispanic 21%
Asian 14%

The density of my area is around 27,000 per square mile, so you really see the huge variety of people on every street. It's a little crazy sometimes. I very rarely hear anyone over age 50 speaking English. Mostly Serbs, Russians, Polish, Cambodian and Vietnamese people. Then a lot of mutt whites and black people, Nigerians and other immigrant Africans.
27,000 people/sq mi?! What neighborhood is that?
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Old 05-16-2009, 07:01 PM
 
Location: West Town, Chicago
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I hear what you are saying and I believe that's the problem in America along with class distinctions. I love Chicago and what it has to offer. But that is my biggest and probably my only beef with the city. It is very segregated and many Chicagoans will tell you this. Blacks live on one side of the tracks and hispanics (basically Mexicans) live on the other. And they tell me it's always been that way. There are majority whatever neighborhoods in Houston just like every city. But in those neighborhoods you will find sizeable other cultures living amongst that majority neighborhood. That is something I think Houston should take advantage of because most cities aren't like that.
I love the segregation of Chicago, though. It gives visitors (and residents who want to play tourist) the opportunity to travel to what feel like other countries, all within the city limits. It's like the Epcot Center, but real! If all these nationalities were mixed together, the neighborhood walking tour industry would dry up in this town! LOL
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Old 05-16-2009, 07:10 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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I love the segregation of Chicago, though. It gives visitors (and residents who want to play tourist) the opportunity to travel to what feel like other countries, all within the city limits. It's like the Epcot Center, but real! If all these nationalities were mixed together, the neighborhood walking tour industry would dry up in this town! LOL
That would be great if segregation actually pulled that off in a positive way. But sadly it is not. You can have a integrated Chinatown. I just do not like the aspects of Mexicans on one side of the tracks and Blacks on another side and each threaten to kill each other if one crosses those tracks.
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Old 05-16-2009, 07:12 PM
 
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I love the segregation of Chicago, though. It gives visitors (and residents who want to play tourist) the opportunity to travel to what feel like other countries, all within the city limits. It's like the Epcot Center, but real! If all these nationalities were mixed together, the neighborhood walking tour industry would dry up in this town! LOL
the segergation in Chicago is mainly between African Americans and Whites; not sure how that is a good thing. I cant really think of any ethnicities that are really that segregated.
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