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Old 10-21-2008, 05:13 PM
 
Location: St. Louis, MO
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I wouldn't include Cincy, Columbus or St. Louis. I've been to C-bus and there is no way that place is rustbelt. To me rust belt is Gary, Toledo, Detroit, Flint, a little bit of Illinois, Cleveland, Akron, Youngstown/Warren, Steubenville, Weirton, WV, Erie, Pittsburgh, Scranton, Buffalo, Rochester, Binghamton. I guess i'm trying to say mostly the Great Lakes cities near Lake Erie and Lake Ontario.
Why wouldn't you include St. Louis? It has every single element of a Rust Belt city, there is absolutely nothing that it lacks.
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Old 10-21-2008, 05:27 PM
 
Location: Western Hoosierland
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well i never really thought of Saint Louis but if you say so then it is on mylist of rust belt cities
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Old 10-21-2008, 05:41 PM
 
Location: Cortland, Ohio
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Why wouldn't you include St. Louis? It has every single element of a Rust Belt city, there is absolutely nothing that it lacks.
There are plenty of cities that have declined and have similarities to cities in the rust belt. I'm not saying that St. Louis doesn't have the same elements. I'm just saying it's not in the belt, just like i don't believe Philly or Baltimore are in the belt.

Check this out:RUST BELT

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Old 10-21-2008, 10:06 PM
 
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I wouldn't include Cincy, Columbus or St. Louis. I've been to C-bus and there is no way that place is rustbelt. To me rust belt is Gary, Toledo, Detroit, Flint, a little bit of Illinois, Cleveland, Akron, Youngstown/Warren, Steubenville, Weirton, WV, Erie, Pittsburgh, Scranton, Buffalo, Rochester, Binghamton. I guess i'm trying to say mostly the Great Lakes cities near Lake Erie and Lake Ontario.
have you been to cincinnati or st. louis? those are two of the rustiest cities around.
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Old 12-08-2009, 08:27 AM
 
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There are plenty of cities that have declined and have similarities to cities in the rust belt. I'm not saying that St. Louis doesn't have the same elements. I'm just saying it's not in the belt, just like i don't believe Philly or Baltimore are in the belt.

Check this out:RUST BELT
I don't see that as totally accurate. There are parts of Chicago that have a rust belt resemblance, but as a whole, Chicago isn't the rust belt. It is too big and too diverse economically for that. Toronto,ONT doesn't belong there for the same reason. I would say St. Louis, and Baltimore are outliers in the Rust Belt region. C-bus,OH, I have a hard time imagining rust belt.
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Old 12-08-2009, 08:49 AM
 
Location: 30-40N 90-100W
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have you been to Cincinnati or St. Louis? those are two of the rustiest cities around.
I think Rustbelt generally refers to the manufacturing and industrial parts of the US that went into decline. St. Louis went into decline, but I don't know if that was because of an industrial or manufacturing decline.

The following maps may therefore relate, bearing in mind some manufacturing has moved South.

http://www.city-data.com/top2/c576.html
http://www.city-data.com/top2/c578.html
http://www.city-data.com/top2/c754.html
http://www.city-data.com/top2/c756.html

I might think of Cincinnati as it's in a Great Lakes state.
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Old 12-08-2009, 10:16 AM
 
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I would say Buffalo, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Detroit, Chicago, and Milwaukee, as far as major cities go.

Cities such as St. Louis, Cincinnati and Columbus are Midwestern, but not really "Rust Belt". And the Minneapolis-St.Paul area is also Midwestern, but a little too far west to be included, as well. ( Most of its industries are "clean" anyway).
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Old 12-08-2009, 10:59 AM
 
Location: Huntington Beach, CA
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Saint Louis is borderline rustbelt. The major auto plants have closed down, but the overall white collar / financial economy is relatively healthy.
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Old 12-08-2009, 01:28 PM
 
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I don't agree with it. St. Louis is definitely in the Rust Belt region, as well as Cincinnati.
There need to be multiple such "islands" stretching clear to the Pacific. That's the harsh reality of it (he wrote, thinking of yet another new pile of rubble that showed up over the past week at yet another brown field site along US-101 - they're multiplying).
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Old 12-08-2009, 09:49 PM
 
Location: Columbus,Ohio
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The major cities I consider rust belt are Philly, Baltimore ,parts of Boston, DC and NYC on the east coast; Pittsburgh and Buffalo in the transitional zone between the northeast and mid west ; and Cleveland, Cincinnati , Detroit, Chicago, Milwaukee , Minneapolis-St. Paul , Kansas City Mo. , St Louis and somewhat Columbus Ohio and Indianapolis in the midwest. I am not sure whether I should consider Louisville being in the rust belt or in the South even though it has it's gritty and old parts.

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