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-Just as I said, any facts that don't paint the 'sports mad' East cities in a positive light are quickly explained away. Poor Celtics weren't able to outdraw the Clippers because tickets were too expensive, haha. Keep 'em coming.
-I'm not making excuses. The Packers probably have the best fans in the league, nobody really compares, including the Raiders.
Packers fans are like Raiders fans without the knife fights.
California produces more MLB players than the next two largest producing states combined. CA out-produces NJ on a per capita basis 2:1, and NY by over 4:1. Players by birthplace : New York Baseball Stats and Info - Baseball-Reference.com Again, per capita. For all of the noise from the east about America’s Pastime, it seems like it rarely plays the game. Probably because it is too busy enjoying the four seasons.
California also produces:
Most total NFL Players, although some states (LA, FL and TX) make a strong case for per capita representation.
Likewise, the NBA. NY, MI and Il can make the per capita case, but not for both of the other two major sports.
Most Major League Soccer, even per capita.
This is despite intense competition by other sports vying for participants. The place also generates huge numbers in volleyball, golf, tennis and swimming, and routinely sends the most athletes to the Olympics, by a huge margin.
California has produces more MLB players than the next two largest producing states combined. CA out-produces NJ on a per capita basis 2:1, and NY by over 4:1. Players by birthplace : New York Baseball Stats and Info - Baseball-Reference.com Again, per capita. For all of the noise from the east about America’s Pastime, it seems like it rarely plays the game. Probably because it is too busy enjoying the four seasons.
California also produces:
Most total NFL Players, although some states (LA, FL and TX) make a strong case for per capita representation.
Likewise, the NBA. NY, MI and Il can make the per capita case, but not for both of the other two major sports.
Most Major League Soccer, even per capita.
This is despite intense competition by other sports vying for participants. The place also generates huge numbers in volleyball, golf,
tennis and swimming, and routinely sends the most athletes to the Olympics, by a huge margin.
But yeah, So Cal is bad for sports.
USC and UCLA have won a staggering 107 combined national championships in various sports--far and away the two winningest schools in the nation.
Throw in the fact that Los Angeles is the only city on Earth to have hosted an Olympiad(two actually), a Super Bowl (seven actually) and a World Cup Final, and I'd say LA's sports history is outstanding.
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Packers fans are like Raiders fans without the knife fights.
Arghhh!!!
I can't STAND Packer fans! Very little humility, gloat all of the time, warship Favre (now Rodgers), very little/no animosity to that franchise since forever, beaver pelts and camouflage is common attire at games or at home, drunk most of the time........I could probably go on!
USC and UCLA have won a staggering 107 combined national championships in various sports--far and away the two winningest schools in the nation.
Throw in the fact that Los Angeles is the only city on Earth to have hosted an Olympiad(two actually), a Super Bowl (seven actually) and a World Cup Final, and I'd say LA's sports history is outstanding.
But I'd concede UCLA would trade all its non-Wooden NCs for one FB title.
But even its FB's history has this: Jackie Robinson's teammate at UCLA, Kenny Washington, broke the NFL's color barrier a year before Robinson did it in MLB, largely because the City made it a condition for the Ram's relocation from Cleveland. Remembering forgotten hero Kenny Washington - latimes.com
Correct me if I'm wrong though but ESPN radio in philadelphia just plays nationally syndicated programing right? Doing that there's no way they could come close to competing with WIP. Although I imagine that there's nothing they could do to beat WIP in the ratings short of convincing Eskin to start a show there.
As far as to whether or not Philly would support an ESPN Philadelphia web site... i don't know, i kind of doubt it. I always got my sports news from the inquirer and the daily news... now i continue to read their work online. Comcast sports net has a site that probably currently offers more than whatever ESPN Philadelphia would be, and I never even go there. I already get my news on philly.com, why would I get the same news from two different sources? A third site on ESPN would just bet total overkill.
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The ESPN location networks are in huge markets that has a great following of their sports college and pro, have legendary teams, and a collection of great sports media radio stations. ESPN103.3 is not even the top radio station in the Dallas market, I believe. It's not even the 2nd best. The Ticket owns the DFW market. It's one of the top sports stations in the nation. Yet that doesn't stop ESPN from creating ESPN Dallas. DC is a good sports town with a nice following for their teams. Their sports radio stations such though. Both of them (106.7 the fan and 980).
1 Philadelphia 4.79
2 Boston 4.66
3 Chicago 4.54
4 New Orleans 4.48
5 Denver 4.35
6 Kansas City 4.26
7 San Juan, P.R. 4.13
8 Baltimore 4.10
9 Dallas/Fort Worth 4.00
10 Providence 3.98
11 San Diego 3.93
12 Austin 3.92
13 Nashville 3.92
14 Memphis 3.89
15 Minneapolis/St. Paul 3.87
16 San Antonio 3.86
17 New York City 3.83
18 Houston 3.82
19 San Francisco 3.75
20 Seattle 3.72
21 Los Angeles 3.71
22 Portland, ME 3.66
23 Salt Lake City 3.65
24 Las Vegas 3.55
25 Atlanta 3.52
26 Phoenix/Scottsdale 3.47
27 Miami 3.43
28 Honolulu 3.33
29 Orlando 3.31
30 Portland, OR 3.26
31 Savannah 3.24
32 Anchorage 3.18
33 Washington, D.C. 3.14
34 Charleston 3.09
35 Santa Fe 2.58
Interesting list. One thing to consider is that the result list that you posted was from the survey by visitors. I think it is also useful to see the ranking by residents. (For instance I was surprised in the list above that Dallas was nine, I thought it would be a few spots higher, then sure enough when I looked on the resident survey results it was number five).
Fenway Park holds way less people than most staduims (36,000) and Every single game was a sell out since 2002. (a record for the MLB)
Since May 15, 2003.
Fenway's sellout streak really isn't impressive when you consider the following:
1) Fenway is the smallest ballpark.
2) There is only one baseball team in Boston.
3) The quality of the product is good.
4) The rivalry with the Yankees was heating up.
5) They were sure to make the playoffs that year, which they hadn't done so since 1999.
And then of course the heartbreaking ending the season really got people hooked into the Red Sox. When they won in 2004, "Red Sox Nation" was born.
Really that not impressive.
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THe attendence in LA is a larger mix between fans, home and Away fans than in Boston.
And the kings hve a more visited site because its metro is 3X larger than Boston's, and im sure the Kings don't have 3X more views than the Bruins site.
The Kings' website is the second most viewed after the Canucks. It has nothing to do with the size of the metro area.
a lot of stadiums built around that time period were larger. baseball was a more popular sport back then. yankee stadium actually got smaller with the new one built.
We're talking about today. TODAY, Dodger Stadium has the largest seating capacity (56,000). This explains why the Dodgers' (and the Yankees') attendance percentage is lower. Most MLB stadiums have a seating capacity of 42,000-44,000. Not a hard concept to understand.
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i would expect that, given how good they've been and how big the la area is.
The Angels haven't made the playoffs in the last two years, yet they still finished top 5 in attendance.
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no, it's not. the dodgers rank #1 for a year, and for a couple years it barely beats out ny and ny's second team is the METS. the mets suck so much, they count for like a minor league team. new york doesn't even take them seriously. that's not even fair to compare ny's second team to la's. the angels come into every season with a prayer, mets fans haven't looked forward to a season in a decade. and what about dodger stadium where half the stadium is LITERALLY filled to the brim with mexicans. if you even try to deny that dodger stadium has this population of mexicans and mexican thuggery, then you are just in denial. dodger stadium wouldn't be 1/5th empty like it was last year on average, but about 50% empty if it wasn't for all the mexicans.
Uh, what? The Mets only topped the Dodgers attendance in one season (2008).
Speaking of the Mets, here's their attendance since 2001:
I think the attendance figures speak for themselves, and what they reveal is that the Angels' attendance has been much more solid than that of the Mets (and the White Sox and Athletics).
You can attribute it to playoff-contending rosters, but the Angels haven't made the postseason since 2009. Attendance was even higher in 2010 and the 2011 attendance wasn't that much of a drop-off. And that was after a major disappointment of an offseason in which many thought they were going to go sign Carl Crawford.
And what's wrong with Mexicans? There is a large Mexican population in LA and baseball is a popular sport among Latinos. You're racist.
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i don't know why you're over here trying to say la's fan base is so great. if it was so great, then they would've been able to keep a football team. the raiders couldn't even sell playoff tickets in la. la isn't worthy of lecturing ANY city on their fanhood.
The two football teams left because of stadium issues and inept politicians, not because of a lack of fan support.
LA fans, per the attendance figures, are very loyal. There is no way you can argue the numbers. Period.
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