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Old 04-01-2009, 03:22 AM
 
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Leaana,

Okay, first off, I too live in Tampa, FL with my Chinese boyfriend. We live in Hyde Park if you are familiar with that area.

Listen, I am not doubting that you may have experienced some discrimination during your time here in America (we all have, and I am white), but I can't help but think you are extremely exaggerating your experiences. My boyfriend has told me personally that in his 20 years of being in America he has never been discriminated against for being eastern asian. Even my very southern family embrassed him with open arms. Contrary to what you say regarding employment opportunities for Asians, he is a top exec in his company (Wellcare, if you have heard of it) and his boss, the CFO, happens to be Vietnamese.

I was extremely angered when you posted this:

"americans are severely messed up and rude! they are WEIRD!

at times, it takes every fiber of my being to not be filled with hate and resentment. now i understand where the hate of america comes from worldwide, at least some of it anyways. there is a lot of bad people here. really and honest."

After seeing that, I am not going to recommend any town in America for you to live, because I simply don't think you should be living in America. You need to do some evaulations about yourself and find out why you are here in the first place. I would highly recommend you take a look at Singapore, because the percentage of 'Eastern Asians' in America is not going to change much in the future. The 'Asian' percentage is going to continue to climb mostly because of 'Southern Asian' immigration (Indians, Pakistanis)

I am not trying to pick a fight, but if you have such a negative opinion about America, then I kindly insist that you find another country to live in.
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Old 04-01-2009, 03:41 AM
 
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Leaana,

Okay, first off, I too live in Tampa, FL with my Chinese boyfriend. We live in Hyde Park if you are familiar with that area.

Listen, I am not doubting that you may have experienced some discrimination during your time here in America (we all have, and I am white), but I can't help but think you are extremely exaggerating your experiences. My boyfriend has told me personally that in his 20 years of being in America he has never been discriminated against for being eastern asian. Even my very southern family embrassed him with open arms. Contrary to what you say regarding employment opportunities for Asians, he is a top exec in his company (Wellcare, if you have heard of it) and his boss, the CFO, happens to be Vietnamese.

I was extremely angered when you posted this:

"americans are severely messed up and rude! they are WEIRD!

at times, it takes every fiber of my being to not be filled with hate and resentment. now i understand where the hate of america comes from worldwide, at least some of it anyways. there is a lot of bad people here. really and honest."

After seeing that, I am not going to recommend any town in America for you to live, because I simply don't think you should be living in America. You need to do some evaulations about yourself and find out why you are here in the first place. I would highly recommend you take a look at Singapore, because the percentage of 'Eastern Asians' in America is not going to change much in the future. The 'Asian' percentage is going to continue to climb mostly because of 'Southern Asian' immigration (Indians, Pakistanis)

I am not trying to pick a fight, but if you have such a negative opinion about America, then I kindly insist that you find another country to live in.
Yes, if you don't like it, you shouldn't even be here - I mean there - in America, lol.
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Old 04-01-2009, 06:53 PM
 
Location: British Columbia.
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I am half asian and have never once experienced discrimination in Canada or America. I have a feeling that there is some exaggeration from Leeana. Maybe when I was younger people would ask me why I had such a long last name LOL..... I've called Leeana on her exaggeration out in a few other posts before.

Judging by her post sometimes I think Leeana has a chip on her shoulder.

If anything Asians in America and Canada have been extremely priviledged if you ask me. In Vancouver most of the richest families are Asian and Asians have most of the high end jobs (I.E. Doctors, pharmacists, and lawyers). The fact that Asians make up almost a majority of the student body in many prestigous schools on the west coast should tell you something.

I currently work in health care, and their is a disproporitonate number of Asian doctors in the medical field. Heck even Bobby Jindal a dark skinned east indian was elected governor of Louisana of all places.

In my experience I find that Asians as a minority group in North America have faired alot better then African Americans for many hisotorical and cultural reasons that I do not feel like getting into. Don't get me wrong Leeana you may have experienced some percieved prejudices but as a single guy in my 20s I think my feelings and sentiments are pretty normal among the Asian community. I don't think you would find many Asians who felt like they were being held down by the MAN.

Perhaps you have had a bad experience because of your broken English? I am not sure I don't know, but many of your perceptions seem a bit extreme to me.

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Old 04-12-2009, 09:02 PM
 
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I am very dismayed, depressed and disheartened that anywhere that has a higher asian population is extremely expensive. I am tired of living with prejudice and racism and not having the conveniences that others have. I am tired of having to go to hole in the wall ethnic grocers as if I'm unimportant. I am tired and lonely of living in areas where the only asians you only see are when you go into a takeout or restaurant, where you are just mostly sol in your community or city. I am tired of the riffraff that gets so represented in this country and anywhere that's affordable is either very racist and backwards or it's full of bad neighbors who blare music and/or act like animals or are just painfully ignorant.

I have checked out the housing and rental prices in los angeles and new york. It is too expensive. I don't understand how anyone would pay those kinds of outrageous prices for usually shoddy, ugly or cramped accomodations.

I currently reside in the tampa/st petersburg area and it's mostly caucasians, hispanics and african-americans, not many asians and not many asian things period and i do not like tampa much at all. Clearwater is relatively nice but still too bland in culture and i would pay the slightly higher prices but there is nothinig geared toward asians or koreans here. There is no real decent ethnic grocery store that is well-stocked and definitely no large well-known asian supermarket chains. I have even searched the whole state.

Atlanta has quite a few but i would never want to live there as it's just not a city that appeals to me at all. The traffic is horrendous, it's congested and still way too southern in the negative sense to me.

If only new york's chinatown was actually decently affordable as well, this country wouldn't seem so crazy to me! but to get a nice place you can call home would cost me and arm and a leg so i couldn't even enjoy it!

i'm screwed if i do and screwed if i don't! where is a place that has what i'm looking for and is progressive and still reasonally priced? any suggestions and insights would be appreciated.

sorry if i sounded too negative, just being honest about my feelings.

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Aww, don't worry... I'm Chinese and have a rough idea of what it feels like...sorta...not really... I live in a pretty "Asian" area...
Well, assuming you are Chinese.
There several options:
Houston, is quiet cheap (compared to NYC and LA) and has a large Asian population. Sugarland in particular has a huge Chinese population.
Dallas, particularly Plano and Richardson (suburbs) have high concentrations of Chinese immigrants.
These areas are also Cheaper.
Austin, recently introduced a Chinatown, although I don't know much about the Chinese population there.
Chicago has a Chinatown, however I think the area it is around is pretty expensive.
Seattle is basically like Chicago except not just Chinese, it has strong Vietnamese and Japanese influence.

If your looking for just high asian populations in general and are growing very rapidly... I'll put the asian populations which is strongest there...in cheaper cities
Minneapolis St. Paul- Hmong, Khmer, Lao, Vietnamese
Chicago- Filipino, Chinese - I don't know too much, but I know it has a huge Filipino population.
Dallas Fort Worth- Korean, Chinese, South Asian, Vietnamese (The Koreans make a huge presence are are numbered to be 100,000 in the metropolitan area within the next 10 years, also I believe this is the 4th Largest metropolitan area in term of Vietnamese only beaten by the Bay Area, Los Angeles, and Houston, one of the largest numbers of Lao and Khmer here in the US)
Houston- Chinese, Vietnamese, South Asian -Has a huge Vietnamese and Chinese presence, they coexist very well and many times they will intermarry within a blink of an eye, they blend very well so it will not be uncommon to see a vietnamese business in a Chinese enclave.
Seattle-Vietnamese, Khmer, and Chinese - (HUGELY vietnamese and much like Houston will blend, although all the asians tend to concentrate on the one asian enclave which each fights over... IE: The chinese want it to be Called Chinatown, the Vietnamese Little Saigon, etc)
Austin- Chinese (Has a Chinatown with a chinese population, I don't know too much other then that Chinese like Collegetowns for some dumb reason which may be the reason the population grew as it the city did too)
Atlanta- Vietnamese, Korean, Chinese - The asian population is growing fast, and they all have this one area of town where everything is mixed with everything (IE: a CHinese bakery next to a Korean video shop) The Vietnamese population number at about 20,000 and makes it the 10 largest Vietnamese metropolitan area.



I'll give you what I know on Texas, I'm too lazy to tell you anything else...
Dallas and Houston
Houston (including Sugarland) has a high Chinese, Vietnamese, and South Asian population, strong enclaves can be found. Mostly Chinese, Vietnamese, and Indian.
Dallas (specifically: Plano, Richardson, Carrollton, Irving, Arlington, Garland, and Coppell) has a high Korean, Vietnamese, South Asian, Khmer, Lao, and Chinese. have high asian concentrations and have several enclaves throughout the city mostly Korean, Vietnamese, Chinese, and Indian). There are only 4 strong enclaves serving the Metropolitan area however, and they're not like NYC.
2 are Vietnamese, one is Korean, the other Chinese. However, the asian population is smaller then houston and the groups are more equally divided so it's not all Chinese and Vietnamese like it is in Houston. IF you are Chinese I would go to one of these three suburbs: Sugarland, Plano, or Richardson

hi leanna and CM dallas and everyone!

i am new here and found this forum - and thread - while continuing my research about relocating myself.

i am so impressed -- cuz its refereshing to see so far like 8 pages of helpful replies from so many members.

i was wondering since it looks like its been about 3 months since ur inquiries, if there's any progress? narrowed it down to anything?

as for me, i feel pretty much in the same boat as u.

i am a 30yo guy of mixed ethnicity (penang, nepali, middle eastern, native). as far as nationalities and ethnicities concerned, i dont see colors or races when i deal with people, but yeah i do have an innate attraction to mostly southeast asian culture and cuisine, the most.

i was born in and hav lived in New York all my life. i've never liked it. most all of new york whether Brooklyn, Queens, Manhattan is congested and dirty and gloomy. the winters are too cold and dreary for my tropical blood!!

i currently live in a town within Queens conveniently located midway between LGA and JFK airports. i would hav already picked up and left but for the past 5 yrs i hav been owning not renting so i am just now at the point i am putting my humble abode up on this terrible sellers' market

so while its up for sale i'm anxiously exploring all possible new hometowns.

i wanna stay on/close to the East coast cuz my parents are already getting old -- my mom is already retired and my dads still workin even though he's got some health problems.

does anyone hav any suggestions as to particular Cities/Towns with a rich Southeast Asian presence (ie, Cambodian, Viet, Laos, Malaysian, Indonesian, Pacific Islander, maybe Filipino)? preferably on East coast, if not then i guess as far west as say, Tx. and as far south as FL.

hope i'm not hijackin the topic i just wanted to chime in about NYC being rather congested and dirty indeed and give my example of having had enough and wanting a "better" asian community to transplant myself into.
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Old 04-12-2009, 10:20 PM
 
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Actually Houston's asians are very intergrated with other races within the city ,but you also have Bellaire Blvd for Chinatown or around downtown.
Houston is very well integrated, considering that the city is basically minority mayority. On the radio one hears chinese, indian, vietnamese stations. There is a project that comprises of three 26 stories highrise, that will basically cater to Asians and whoever wants to live there. I wouldn't mind living there myself, ck out the site. The slab has been poured for one high rise but due to economic conditions in real state, the project has been slowed down.
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Old 04-13-2009, 12:01 AM
 
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oh wow. hope Leanna is still checking in periodically for these helpful updates.

i know leanna is looking for more Asian, so if i may ask, conversely,

which SouthEastAsian -rich suburbs would one recommend in Dallas or Houston?
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Old 04-14-2009, 01:30 AM
 
Location: The Emerald City
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come to seattle - we have little saigon, chinatown and more viet/korean malls with nice cars/stores/etc.
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Old 04-16-2009, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Macao
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Easy answer - LAS VEGAS, NEVADA. Tons and tons of Asians, and mostly coming from California, and I'm sure they will continue to come. Just in the last 10 years, I am amazed that most of the casino workers are Asian! The 2000 census does not reflect the changes whatsoever either!

I've actually lived in Asia for years (since 1996)...I'm white...and lived in NYC and SF for brief periods of time during that time. Both cities are too expensive for the longterm, but many Asians.

Did anyone mention the Gulf of Mexico - places like Biloxi BS., Lousiana, etc...tons of VIETNAMESE...(in my opinion, the most attractive by far as well)...mostly involved in the shrimping industry...actually they are the same ethnic group that dominates Houston, etc. as well.

Speaking of HOUSTON...the numbers for Houston aren't really that high. I mean, not anymore than somewhere like Biloxi percantage-wise, both are like 5-6%. They are all over in Fort Bend County (Sugar Land) NEXT to Houston, but NOT really Houston in any large number. Sugar Land is 33% Asian, and Stafford TX is 20%...that is really about it, otherwise most parts of Houston is it just 2-5% or so of Harris County...the combined Houston-Sugar Land numbers is what makes Houston look more Asian than it actually is. IN short, its SUGAR LAND in Fort Bend County, NOT Houston in Harris County.

Generally speaking though, it seems like CALIFORNIA is the PLACE. Sacramento is attracting tons of Asians as well...I think 16% last time I read, but I'm sure it is increasing quickly. But everywhere in California seems pretty good...same with Washington State.

NJ/NY is great...but too expensive, so why not CA or even HI at those prices, which would have higher Asian percentages as well for similar cost of living.

Anyways, I personally think that Las Vegas beats out the Atlantas, Houstons, or North Carolina or wherever else...for affordable with Asian.
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Old 04-16-2009, 11:16 AM
 
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Easy answer - LAS VEGAS, NEVADA. Tons and tons of Asians, and mostly coming from California, and I'm sure they will continue to come. Just in the last 10 years, I am amazed that most of the casino workers are Asian! The 2000 census does not reflect the changes whatsoever either!

I've actually lived in Asia for years (since 1996)...I'm white...and lived in NYC and SF for brief periods of time during that time. Both cities are too expensive for the longterm, but many Asians.

Did anyone mention the Gulf of Mexico - places like Biloxi BS., Lousiana, etc...tons of VIETNAMESE...(in my opinion, the most attractive by far as well)...mostly involved in the shrimping industry...actually they are the same ethnic group that dominates Houston, etc. as well.

Speaking of HOUSTON...the numbers for Houston aren't really that high. I mean, not anymore than somewhere like Biloxi percantage-wise, both are like 5-6%. They are all over in Fort Bend County (Sugar Land) NEXT to Houston, but NOT really Houston in any large number. Sugar Land is 33% Asian, and Stafford TX is 20%...that is really about it, otherwise most parts of Houston is it just 2-5% or so of Harris County...the combined Houston-Sugar Land numbers is what makes Houston look more Asian than it actually is. IN short, its SUGAR LAND in Fort Bend County, NOT Houston in Harris County.

Generally speaking though, it seems like CALIFORNIA is the PLACE. Sacramento is attracting tons of Asians as well...I think 16% last time I read, but I'm sure it is increasing quickly. But everywhere in California seems pretty good...same with Washington State.

NJ/NY is great...but too expensive, so why not CA or even HI at those prices, which would have higher Asian percentages as well for similar cost of living.

Anyways, I personally think that Las Vegas beats out the Atlantas, Houstons, or North Carolina or wherever else...for affordable with Asian.
California cheaper than NY/NJ? Are you sure?
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Old 04-16-2009, 11:24 AM
 
Location: Live in VA, Work in MD, Play in DC
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People do realize that the most prejudice that Asians receive are from other Asians of different ethnicities, especially when there are large amounts of them congregated together. Unless they are fully Americanized, lots of Asian ethnicities still hold some of the most stereotypical and ill-conceived notions about each other (Asian countries are very homogenized).

You want to experience real prejudice as an Asian? Try living as a Filipino in Japan or as a Vietnamese in China.
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