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Old 02-04-2010, 12:14 AM
 
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You're talking about the old part of London...the historic core. The population within the city limits of London is 7.5 million. The historic core area of London is not the current entire city.
It's not just core it's the city

London refer to Greater London a Conurbation! not the city of London! the city of London is the Square Mile yes! Greater London is govern by a metropolitan Government they call it a administrative area, the population of Greater London is 7.2 million. Newham is 1 of 32 boroughs of Greater London it’s not part of the city of London but it’s refer to as London because it’s part of Greater London, Beyond this is the London commuter belt which is the rest of the London metropolitan area. The core of the London commuter belt is not the city of London but the Greater London conurbation. The city of London the square mile along with Westminster are incorporated cities with in the larger metropolitan Government of Greater london. "The term "London" is normally used in reference to Greater London or to the overall conurbation, but not often to the ancient, tiny City of London"

It's like how Tokyo is a Prefecture in Japan, it’s a Conurbation of “23 special wards” together as the Tokyo Metropolis which is govern by the Tokyo metropolitan Government, the city of Tokyo itself was abolished! The Tokyo Metropolis is 12,790,000, The Greater Tokyo Area is made up of the prefectures of Chiba, Kanagawa, Saitama, and Tokyo with a population over 34,607,069. Yokohama is Japan largest city because Tokyo is a Prefecture.

New York city is close but it's not a metropolitan Government it's a city that annex 5 counties, If The City of Washington was stll a separate municipality within the Territory of Columbia it would be like London or if DC was divided into districts that are like cities, like the special wards of Tokyo DC would be a metropolitan Government but it's not. My point of bringing this up is, city propers are misleading saying Edinburgh is a bigger capital than london is misleading.
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Old 02-04-2010, 12:20 AM
 
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Why don't you ask people from the UK whether or not people living outside the City of London but within Greater London are Londoners? I think once you start telling people who live there who they are, then things will clear right up.
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Old 02-04-2010, 12:24 AM
 
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Not really because the commuting population to work in the city, media markets, not to mention what happens in the central city effect the hold metro and etc....
Yes really, because the suburbs are not part of the capital city. They're suburbs. Marietta is not part of the capital of Georgia. Cambridge is not part of the capital of Massachusetts. Phoenix is indisputably the largest state capital city.

How did we get from "best" to "largest" anyway?
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Old 02-04-2010, 12:34 AM
 
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Yes really, because the suburbs are not part of the capital city. They're suburbs. Marietta is not part of the capital of Georgia. Cambridge is not part of the capital of Massachusetts. Phoenix is indisputably the largest state capital city.

How did we get from "best" to "largest" anyway?
some one brought up which capital is the Largest.
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Not really because the commuting population to work in the city, media markets, not to mention what happens in the central city effect the hold metro and etc. If someone from Timbuktu travel to Atlanta and Austin never knowing the population of both cities proper he or she would concluded that Atlanta is a larger capital city than Austin. Phoenix is the most populous U.S. state capital by city, Atlanta is the most populous state capital by metropolitan area. Edinburgh is the capital of Scottland: city 471,650 metro 1,164,611, London is the capital of England in addition to being the capital of the UK: city 7,900 metro 14 million, going by your rule Edinburgh is a larger capital than London.
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Old 02-04-2010, 01:31 AM
 
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Why don't you ask people from the UK whether or not people living outside the City of London but within Greater London are Londoners? I think once you start telling people who live there who they are, then things will clear right up.
Haha,indeed.
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Old 02-04-2010, 11:40 AM
 
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Why don't you ask people from the UK whether or not people living outside the City of London but within Greater London are Londoners? I think once you start telling people who live there who they are, then things will clear right up.
What, you've never heard of an Islingtonian, or a Tower Hamletite?!
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Old 02-04-2010, 07:48 PM
 
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It's not just core it's the city

London refer to Greater London a Conurbation! not the city of London! the city of London is the Square Mile yes! Greater London is govern by a metropolitan Government they call it a administrative area, the population of Greater London is 7.2 million. Newham is 1 of 32 boroughs of Greater London it’s not part of the city of London but it’s refer to as London because it’s part of Greater London, Beyond this is the London commuter belt which is the rest of the London metropolitan area. The core of the London commuter belt is not the city of London but the Greater London conurbation. The city of London the square mile along with Westminster are incorporated cities with in the larger metropolitan Government of Greater london. "The term "London" is normally used in reference to Greater London or to the overall conurbation, but not often to the ancient, tiny City of London"

It's like how Tokyo is a Prefecture in Japan, it’s a Conurbation of “23 special wards” together as the Tokyo Metropolis which is govern by the Tokyo metropolitan Government, the city of Tokyo itself was abolished! The Tokyo Metropolis is 12,790,000, The Greater Tokyo Area is made up of the prefectures of Chiba, Kanagawa, Saitama, and Tokyo with a population over 34,607,069. Yokohama is Japan largest city because Tokyo is a Prefecture.

New York city is close but it's not a metropolitan Government it's a city that annex 5 counties, If The City of Washington was stll a separate municipality within the Territory of Columbia it would be like London or if DC was divided into districts that are like cities, like the special wards of Tokyo DC would be a metropolitan Government but it's not. My point of bringing this up is, city propers are misleading saying Edinburgh is a bigger capital than london is misleading.
I'm sorry, but you're wrong. THE CITY OF LONDON'S POPULATION IS NOT 7,900. You can keep arguing such a ridiculous point if you want to, but you are simply incorrect.
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Old 02-04-2010, 09:17 PM
 
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It's not just core it's the city
Oh, but no.

You do realize that the "City of London" operates complelety seperate of "London". The "City of London" is governed by by The City of London Corp, while "London is governed by the London Metro Govt. The City of London was never apart of the County of London, it has always been an independent district. Even the Queen has to ask permission to get into certain parts of "the city". The Mayor of London is in charge of "Greater London" but not the "City of London" which is run by the "Lord Mayor of London". London may not be a city in the "U.S." sense of the word same as Tokyo, but that conurbation acts as a single city and not as a giant metro area. You can't view city boundries and governments of other countries like those in the U.S. It isn't like Atlanta and Metro Atlanta, where you have a core city and then a surrounding metro area made up of hundreds of independently acting cities. Conurbations like London and Tokyo act as one entity. It would be like having all of Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Marietta under one government and acting as a single city.
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Old 02-04-2010, 09:37 PM
 
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I'm sorry, but you're wrong. THE CITY OF LONDON'S POPULATION IS NOT 7,900. You can keep arguing such a ridiculous point if you want to, but you are simply incorrect.
City of London - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Greater London is not a city in the proper sense that the word applies in the United Kingdom, that of being a status granted by the Crown. In addition, one of the London boroughs, Westminster, is already a city, as well as the City of London itself which would make such a status anomalous. Despite this, Greater London is commonly regarded as a city in the general sense of a municipality. A Lord Lieutenant of Greater London is appointed for its area, less the City of London, an area identical to the Metropolitan Police District, and for the purposes of the Lieutenancies Act 1997, this area is defined as a county.
The term "London" is normally used in reference to Greater London or to the overall conurbation, but not often to the ancient, tiny City of London. Instead, this small area is often referred to simply as "the City" or "the Square Mile" and it forms the main financial district. Archaically the urbanised area of London was known as the Metropolis. In common usage, the terms "London" and "Greater London" are usually used interchangeably. It is officially divided for some purposes, with varying definitions, into Inner London and Outer London. For strategic planning purposes the region is divided into five sub regions
Greater London - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

London commuter belt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Greater London Urban Area - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The city of london is 7,900, the Greater London administrative area which is refer to as London is 7,512,400, the Greater London Urban Area is 8,505,000, the london commuter belt is 9,294,800, and the london Metro 12-14 million there nothing else I can say.
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Old 02-04-2010, 10:37 PM
 
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Oh, but no.

You do realize that the "City of London" operates complelety seperate of "London". The "City of London" is governed by by The City of London Corp, while "London is governed by the London Metro Govt. The City of London was never apart of the County of London, it has always been an independent district. Even the Queen has to ask permission to get into certain parts of "the city". The Mayor of London is in charge of "Greater London" but not the "City of London" which is run by the "Lord Mayor of London". London may not be a city in the "U.S." sense of the word same as Tokyo, but that conurbation acts as a single city and not as a giant metro area. You can't view city boundries and governments of other countries like those in the U.S. It isn't like Atlanta and Metro Atlanta, where you have a core city and then a surrounding metro area made up of hundreds of independently acting cities. Conurbations like London and Tokyo act as one entity. It would be like having all of Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Marietta under one government and acting as a single city.
I know that, I'm not disagreeing with that, and you reposted what I said, the exact same thing in a different way. The city of London never annex and Greater London was created in 1963 out of the County of London and parts of other counties.

You brought up Atlanta, the Atlanta Regional Commission is a metropolitan planning agency, the ARC covers 10-counties together which has a population over 4 million. If the ARC was like the Greater London Authority the term "Atlanta" would normally be used in reference to the Atlanta 10 county region the Administrative area but not often to the city of Atlanta. The 10 county region would be incorporated as a unique Municipality which would hold the incorporated cities and counties inside. The rest of the Metro, the hold 28-county region would be the 5.3 million Atlanta commuter belt or Metropolitan area.
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