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View Poll Results: What City is More like the South: Dallas or Richmond?
Dallas, TX 40 54.05%
Richmond, VA 34 45.95%
Voters: 74. You may not vote on this poll

 
 
Old 02-14-2009, 10:58 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Richmond: 37 31′ 58.8″ N

Dallas: 32 46′ 58″ N

Dallas is more Southern.

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Old 02-14-2009, 10:59 PM
 
Location: Richmond
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Richmond: 37 31′ 58.8″ N

Dallas: 32 46′ 58″ N

Dallas is more Southern.

Its more West of Richmond than South. Also geography doesnt always indicate culture.
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Old 02-14-2009, 11:01 PM
 
Location: On the Great South Bay
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Richmond: 37 31′ 58.8″ N

Dallas: 32 46′ 58″ N

Dallas is more Southern.

Lol I get what your saying but if we continue down that road then Miami is the most Southern city of all!
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Old 02-14-2009, 11:02 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Its more West of Richmond than South. Also geography doesnt always indicate culture.
It was a joke, kid. Pull the corn cob outta yer...

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Lol I get what your saying but if we continue down that road then Miami is the most Southern city of all!
Actually I think it would be Key West. Or would it be Brownsville?

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Old 02-14-2009, 11:03 PM
 
Location: Richmond
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It was my mistake to ever let these big headed Texans push me around, lol.
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Old 02-14-2009, 11:06 PM
 
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We should probably let this arguement go and not run Texas against Virginia anymore
Or Va's/Richmond's southerness...

Sure Richmonder27/blueva/vasinger, I'll believe it when I'll see it.
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Old 02-14-2009, 11:24 PM
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TexasReb, lets not start another War, lol. I was just kidding.

No war to start. But fact is, you picked the fight much earlier on. And originally, be honest, you were not kidding at all. So I took up the flung down gauntlet...

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I am a little irked that Dallas is winning, and naturally so. Richmond is so dear to me...
But again, it was you who started the poll. You gotta keep that one in mind, friend.

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In fact, you seem to be as anxious to prove Texas' Southern heritage, are you not?
Of course I am! But I think I can honestly say I never do so in a way which is predicated on disputing the credentials of another Southern state.

And as it is, really, I don't really need to "prove" Texas to be a Southern state. Reason being, it simply IS. Only thing I do sometime (well, often, I suppose LOL) is re-affirm it!

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We should probably let this arguement go and not run Texas against Virginia anymore
I agree. Not a problem.

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Also- what would Sam Houston say? He and his merry band of Virginians founded Texas!
Actually, the three main role players in the settlement of Texas after 1836 were Tennessee, Alabama and Missisippi. Georgia was next, I think...

But yep, Virginians were up there as well.

I would like to visit Richmond and Virginia in the near future. I know it is a beautiful state of both Colonial and Southern history and culture.

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Old 02-15-2009, 12:02 AM
 
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Vas, I thought that you really don't care about this North/South stuff anymore. That's a quick change of mind. Most Southerners don't pronounce river as rivah or the riveeerrr as you put it but we instead pronounce it like rihver (no I didn't poll the entire South on this). Rivah still sound NYish and New Englandish to me. You said that you are from the D.C. area why are you so caught up in this deep South thing? Northern VA isn' deep South, so why try and be deep South? That's all.
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Old 02-15-2009, 12:18 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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Vas, I thought that you really don't care about this North/South stuff anymore. That's a quick change of mind. Most Southerners don't pronounce river as rivah or the riveeerrr as you put it but we instead pronounce it like rihver (no I didn't poll the entire South on this). Rivah still sound NYish and New Englandish to me. You said that you are from the D.C. area why are you so caught up in this deep South thing? Northern VA isn' deep South, so why try and be deep South? That's all.
Ah, the good old rhotic versus non-rhotic accent debate. There are parts of the south that do indeed have a non-rhotic accent (meaning, trailing R's are basically not pronounced), such as limited areas of the coastal Carolinas and in much of Alabama, Mississippi and the southeast corner of Louisiana. Other notable non-rhotic regions in the U.S. include New England ("cah" instead of "car") and NYC/northern New Jersey ("pawk" instead of "park"). That's why "rivah" may sound NY/NE to you, but it's also accurate for the non-rhotic parts of the South -- both regions' accents originate from largely non-rhotic England after all.

Other non-rhotic regions Australia and of course much of England. Notable rhotic regions include the rest of North America, Ireland and Scotland. In fact it is the waves first of Scots-Irish and then "regular" Irish that transformed North America from a primarily non-rhotic region to a primarily rhotic region. This is why the hills areas of the South are notably more rhotic than the flat areas -- the former was more thoroughly settled by the Scots-Irish.

Sorry for the History Channel thread hijack.
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Old 02-15-2009, 12:20 AM
 
Location: ITL (Houston)
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Great info.
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