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Old 03-14-2009, 07:15 PM
 
Location: Baton Rouge
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LOL, it's so funny how Southerners say stupid stuff like " I would never move to the North--it's dangerous"---
Yeah...I can't say I've ever heard that.

 
Old 03-15-2009, 11:29 AM
 
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LOL, it's so funny how Southerners say stupid stuff like " I would never move to the North--it's dangerous"---
It is quite ironic. Living in Georgia I kind of feel otherwise about crime and the South. Atlanta is a very violent city. Sadly, it isn't the only city struggling with crime and murders. Macon, Albany, and even Savannah are having issues. Some of Atlanta's suburbs have issues with crime. Georgia has alot of violence spread out. New Jersy may have some of the most violent cities in the USA such as Newark and Irvington, but the violence is concentrated in pockets. You have alot of murders in a few areas where as the rest of New Jersey isn't as bad.
 
Old 03-16-2009, 05:41 AM
 
Location: Cold Frozen North
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It is quite ironic. Living in Georgia I kind of feel otherwise about crime and the South. Atlanta is a very violent city. Sadly, it isn't the only city struggling with crime and murders. Macon, Albany, and even Savannah are having issues. Some of Atlanta's suburbs have issues with crime. Georgia has alot of violence spread out. New Jersy may have some of the most violent cities in the USA such as Newark and Irvington, but the violence is concentrated in pockets. You have alot of murders in a few areas where as the rest of New Jersey isn't as bad.
Actually, the same is probably true for a lot of states, especially with big cities. If you factored out the violence in the big cities out of the states statistics, I'd bet that the overall crime rates of most states would be very close to each other.
 
Old 03-16-2009, 05:59 AM
 
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it doesnt surprise me that the first 9 out of 16 states are in the south
 
Old 04-09-2009, 01:39 AM
 
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it doesnt surprise me that the first 9 out of 16 states are in the south
It doesn't surprise me either. The South has always had a culture of violence. Most people won't say anything about that. I read an article from the NY Times about crime in the South and it does have an interesting point. One thing to look at is that those 9 states were also slave states. Keeping up the institution of slavery requires alot of cruelty, so many of the slave owners were cruel to their slaves to scare the slaves and to make the submit. After slavery ended, Reconstruction came. There was alot of animosity towards the fact the black people were now free and that the Reconstructionist governments were giving rights to blacks. That is how the KKK was formed. They started to perpetrate acts of violence to intimidate blacks. After the Reconstructionist governments ended, blacks were now in a state worse than second class. Black codes were enacted to "keep blacks in their place" as many people wanted it. If a black person committed a crime against a white person, that black person was often punished harder than what would be considered normal. If a black person committed a crime against another black person, the law usually looked the other way. Many blacks learned through process of elimination that they could get away with killing another black person, but they could not do anything to a white person. This could be a big part of why black on black crime is very serious. The South has a history of violence. States like Wisconsin and Minnesota didn't have as much of a culture of violence. Those places were not slave states. Their economies didn't have the use for slavery. For this case, cruelty towards other human beings wasn't as rampant. Interestingly enough, both states do not have the death penalty. The death penalty is widespread in the South. In fact, Texas has executed more people than any other state and yet it has one of the highest murder rates in the nation. It tells me the death penalty won't deter crime.
 
Old 04-09-2009, 02:40 AM
 
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1. I would say that it helps tremendously to be among the least populated states...of the 10 states with the lowest murder rate, 8 of them are ranked in the bottom 10 in population. There is a logical correlation between number of people/number of murders.

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42. South Dakota 2.1
43. North Dakota 1.9
44. Vermont 1.9
44. Oregon 1.9
46. Rhode Island 1.8
47. Hawaii 1.7
48. Maine 1.6
49. Montana 1.5
50. Iowa 1.2
51. New Hampshire 1.1


2. There also seems to be a correlation between population and rate of gun ownership. States with high population but low rate of gun ownership don't make the top 5 - California, New York, Illinois. States with high rate of gun ownership but low population don't make it either, and are at the bottom. But high population and high rate of gun ownership are a deadly combination.



3. An interesting point of view regarding the nature of muder in the South versus other U.S. regions:

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They note that much of the distinction in murder rates between the South and other sections of the country comes from a difference in the character of Southern homicide.

It was found that many murders in the South are of a personal and traditional nature such as a barroom brawl, a quarrel between acquaintances or a fight between lovers. In other places, the newspaper reported, homicides usually begin with another crime like a botched robbery, and typically involve strangers.
South's high murder rate is key factor in why U.S. homicide rate is so high | Jet | Find Articles at BNET
 
Old 04-09-2009, 07:04 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Actually, the same is probably true for a lot of states, especially with big cities. If you factored out the violence in the big cities out of the states statistics, I'd bet that the overall crime rates of most states would be very close to each other.
But that's not what he's saying. The violence in Georgia is spread out more than most places is his point. It's not just the inner city. You have alot of crime take place in the suburbs of Atlanta. You have lots of violence in Georgia's small cities and even in some of it's rural towns.
 
Old 04-09-2009, 07:36 AM
 
Location: NJ
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But that's not what he's saying. The violence in Georgia is spread out more than most places is his point. It's not just the inner city. You have alot of crime take place in the suburbs of Atlanta. You have lots of violence in Georgia's small cities and even in some of it's rural towns.
i'd say florida is much more like georgia in this regard as well - it's not a matter of "avoid miami and you'll be fine"...crime seems to be a little more far reaching there also.
 
Old 04-09-2009, 10:04 AM
 
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1. District of Columbia 30.8 57.8% black
2. Louisiana 14.2 32.5% black
3. Maryland 9.8 28.5% black
4. Alabama 8.9 26% black
5. New Mexico 8.2 42% Hispanic/Mestizo
6. South Carolina 8.0 28.9% black
7. Georgia 7.5 28.7% black
7. Nevada 7.5 19.6% Hispanic/Mestizo, 6.9% black
9. Arizona 7.4 25.2% Hispanic/Mestizo
10. Mississippi 7.1 37.2% black
11. Michigan 6.7 14% black
11. Arkansas 6.7 15.3% black
13. Florida 6.6 15.1% black
14. North Carolina 6.5 21.2% black
14. Missouri 6.5 11.2% black
16. Tennessee 6.4 16.3% black
16. Alaska 6.4 (brutal cold weather woul drive anyone crazy)
18. California 6.2 32.3% Hispanic/Mestizo, 6.3% black
19. Oklahoma 6.1 7.1% black
20. Texas 5.9 32% Hispanic/Mestizo, 11% black
20. Illinois 5.9 14.7% black, 12% Hispanic/Mestizo
22. Pennsylvania 5.8 10% black
23. Indiana 5.6 **US National Rate** 8.1% black
24. Virginia 5.3 19.3% black
25. Kentucky 4.8 6.8% black
26. Ohio 4.5 11.7% black
27. New Jersey 4.4 13.1% black, 13% Hispanic/Mestizo
28. New York 4.2 15.8% black, 15% Hispanic/Mestizo
29. Delaware 4.3 19.8% black,
30. Kansas 3.9 5.1% black
31. Nebraska 3.8 3.6% black
32. West Virginia 3.5 3.1% black
33. Idaho 3.3 0.3% black
33. Wisconsin 3.3 5.7% black
35. Colorado 3.1 4% black
35. Wyoming 3.1 0.8% black
37. Connecticut 3.0 9.3% black, 9% Hispanic/Mestizo
38. Massachusetts 2.9 6% black
39. Washington 2.7 3.3% black
40. Minnesota 2.2 4.1% black
40. Utah 2.2 0.8% black
42. South Dakota 2.1 0.8% black
43. North Dakota 1.9 0.6% black
44. Vermont 1.9 0.5% black
44. Oregon 1.9 1.7% black
46. Rhode Island 1.8 5.5% black
47. Hawaii 1.7 1.7% black
48. Maine 1.6 0.6% black
49. Montana 1.5 0.3% black
50. Iowa 1.2 2.2% black
51. New Hampshire 1.1 0.8% black
 
Old 04-09-2009, 10:06 AM
 
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1. I would say that it helps tremendously to be among the least populated states...of the 10 states with the lowest murder rate, 8 of them are ranked in the bottom 10 in population. There is a logical correlation between number of people/number of murders.
I see a correlation between race and murder rates. Of course, more populated states will likely have more murders, but they will vary, based upon the demographic components of the states.
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