LA's Staples center vs NY's MSG (live, best, state, better)

[couldntthinkofaclevername]

Originally Posted by polo89

Yet the Knicks SUCK!!! New York is a waste. It's the Bball mecca, it has the celebrities that are interested, but they never but talent out there. That new Lin guy is attracting people, but still. At least LA stays consistent with it's victories. In a couple of years, Miami will take the place of MSG and will be close(but not quite there) with Staples. You gotta win, win, win, and the Knicks just don't, don't, don't. Miami has the celebrity atmosphere also, but they also have the TALENT.

No, Philadelphia in my opinion is the basketball mecca. New York is just the pro and streetball basketball mecca.

The Lakers are going to fall, and hard. Also, LA poached teams from other cities... winning teams. You don't have a single original team in California.

I'm sorry.. but no. Nowhere will ever take the place of MSG.

[btownboss4]

Originally Posted by couldntthinkofaclevername

No, Philadelphia in my opinion is the basketball mecca. New York is just the pro and streetball basketball mecca.

The Lakers are going to fall, and hard. Also, LA poached teams from other cities... winning teams. You don't have a single original team in California.

I'm sorry.. but no. Nowhere will ever take the place of MSG.

So Philly is the Basketball mecca How?

[couldntthinkofaclevername]

Originally Posted by btownboss4

So Philly is the Basketball mecca How?

Big 5 for starters, public league, Chester, Philly, Camden, very large and respected streetball culture/scene that continues to get bigger and grow to other parts of the metro as Philadelphia grows, second only to NYC in the players it produces and the amount of them.

NYC isn't the mecca in my opinion because of the fact that they don't have an equivalent of the Big 5. Obviously their high school and streetball scene/culture is number one in the country and always will be (though our metro as a whole is almost on that level) and of course they are without a doubt the mecca of pro basketball but their college scene is a joke compared to ours. The only legit school they have is St. John's.

That's why I say Philly is the mecca of basketball as a whole.

[kidphilly]

Originally Posted by btownboss4

So Philly is the Basketball mecca How?

A pretty good history of pro, college, high school, and street/playground hoops but would beg you to find a better historic starting 5 than those who come from Philly

Wilt Chamberlain
Kobe Bryant
Rasheed Wallace
Earl Monroe
And will throw in a more recent Jameer Nelson

But could do Aaron McKee or Cuttino Mobley or Malik Rose or John Salmons or Wali Jones or Eddie Griffin or Hakim Warrick or Alvin Williams or Tyreke Evans or Kyle Lowry or Marc Jackson or many others as the 5th starter

But not sure any city could put together as good a starting 5 Philly definately has a tremendous hoops lineage, plus the Palestra, one of the best college hoops sites in the country. Philly has also been home to the most NCAA toruney games and some of the greatest. Just think of that Leatner shot not to mention the sixers have the 3rd most playoff games in the history of the NBA

Also still today the reference to a particular style of gaurd play is called "Philadelphia Style" encompassing a long lineage of gaurds and ball handling, assists, game control and tenacious defence

On this topic. MSG is just special the Staples center looks and feels like a half dozen or more areanas that exist today not the least of which is the Wells Fargo center in Philly

[RaymondChandlerLives]

Originally Posted by couldntthinkofaclevername

Big 5 for starters, public league, Chester, Philly, Camden, very large and respected streetball culture/scene that continues to get bigger and grow to other parts of the metro as Philadelphia grows, second only to NYC in the players it produces and the amount of them.

NYC isn't the mecca in my opinion because of the fact that they don't have an equivalent of the Big 5. Obviously their high school and streetball scene/culture is number one in the country and always will be (though our metro as a whole is almost on that level) and of course they are without a doubt the mecca of pro basketball but their college scene is a joke compared to ours. The only legit school they have is St. John's.

That's why I say Philly is the mecca of basketball as a whole.

L.A. has some of the best HS teams in the country(Mater Dei, Dominguez, Taft, etc, are perennial powerhouses), UCLA has more national titles than all those Philly schools combined, plus the city has two buildings two buildings(Staples and the Forum), each which has been to more NBA title winners than MSG and Philly combined. The Sixers have been mediocre since the '80s, save for 2001, when they lost in the Finals to the Lakers. Not to mention that Pauley Pavilion is THE place where pros come to work on their games in the Summer, plus the great streetball that's taken in place in Venice over the years. In short, no city has a greater claim to being a basketball Mecca than L.A. currently.

[RaymondChandlerLives]

Originally Posted by kidphilly

A pretty good history of pro, college, high school, and street/playground hoops but would beg you to find a better historic starting 5 than those who come from Philly

Wilt Chamberlain
Kobe Bryant
Rasheed Wallace
Earl Monroe
And will throw in a more recent Jameer Nelson

But could do Aaron McKee or Cuttino Mobley or Malik Rose or John Salmons or Wali Jones or Eddie Griffin or Hakim Warrick or Alvin Williams or Tyreke Evans or Kyle Lowry or Marc Jackson or many others as the 5th starter

But not sure any city could put together as good a starting 5 Philly definately has a tremendous hoops lineage, plus the Palestra, one of the best college hoops sites in the country. Philly has also been home to the most NCAA toruney games and some of the greatest. Just think of that Leatner shot not to mention the sixers have the 3rd most playoff games in the history of the NBA

Also still today the reference to a particular style of gaurd play is called "Philadelphia Style" encompassing a long lineage of gaurds and ball handling, assists, game control and tenacious defence

On this topic. MSG is just special the Staples center looks and feels like a half dozen or more areanas that exist today not the least of which is the Wells Fargo center in Philly

The only thing special about MSG is that it's old for an NBA building. There's nothing remarkable about it. It's doesn't even have the dilapated charm Boston Garden and Chicago Stadium used to have.

[polo89]

Originally Posted by RaymondChandlerLives

L.A. has some of the best HS teams in the country(Mater Dei, Dominguez, Taft, etc, are perennial powerhouses), UCLA has more national titles than all those Philly schools combined, plus the city has two buildings two buildings(Staples and the Forum), each which has been to more NBA title winners than MSG and Philly combined. The Sixers have been mediocre since the '80s, save for 2001, when they lost in the Finals to the Lakers. Not to mention that Pauley Pavilion is THE place where pros come to work on their games in the Summer, plus the great streetball that's taken in place in Venice over the years. In short, no city has a greater claim to being a basketball Mecca than L.A. currently.

I forgot about the Venice Beach courts. And don't forget the LA summer league they had during the lock-out when ALL the NBA stars came out. UCLA, all of that. Good argument.

[KodeBlue]

Originally Posted by couldntthinkofaclevername

No, Philadelphia in my opinion is the basketball mecca. New York is just the pro and streetball basketball mecca.

The Lakers are going to fall, and hard. Also, LA poached teams from other cities... winning teams. You don't have a single original team in California.

I'm sorry.. but no. Nowhere will ever take the place of MSG.

......... Pro Basketball mecca... .LOL.

LA, Boston, Chicago gets that before NY does

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[btownboss4]

If anything Springfield MA is the Basketball Mecca, it has the Bball hof, and is the home of the game, also it fostered the development into the game it is today.